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You sure it was Deadwood and not Sweetwater?

I like this episode, but there's one thing they should have done differently.

Worf resists the shield solution, saying it's not needed. At the fight, he outdraws Data/Hollander and kills him. Afterwards, when Troi asks how he did it, he gives her a condescending look and says "Even an Android cannot match the speed and accuracy of a Klingon warrior."

I've always loved this episode. And in particular, I do love just how much more beautiful Marina Sirtis is in actual clothes as opposed to the pastel cleavage pajamas that she wore for the majority of the show. Jeri Ryan and Jolene Blalock were the same to varying degrees whenever their catsuits were thankfully replaced by actual clothes. T'Pol aside, bringing in real, utilitarian uniforms was something that Enterprise should definitely be commended for.

I think that this episode actually has something in common with ''11.59'' from a couple of weeks ago regarding the idea of potentially toxic nostalgia. The old west was an horrific place that has been romanticized in popular culture to the same level as the Medieval or Ancient Rome. But whilst it makes for fantastic films and videogames, the reality of actually living somewhere like this, especially for those of us in the 21st century who are used to conveniences, technology, supermarkets, the internet, equality etc. it would be an absolute horror show.

That western code based on honour that Chuck spoke of is a great example of romanticism as like the chivalric code of the Knights centuries before, its a combination of make-believe and exaggeration born from the likes of John Wayne films.

When did anyone ever claim the Old West wasn't a horrific time period? The reason it became so popular as a setting for stories is because it gave you a harsh, lawless environment full of things trying to kill you, giving the heroes plenty of things to fight and overcome in a suitably dramatic fashion. Its horrificness is the whole basis of its appeal.

You can't set a story where nothing happens.

That's part of the appeal of Star Trek too, it's set on the final frontier where dangerous and exciting stuff happens.

Fianna wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:27 pm When did anyone ever claim the Old West wasn't a horrific time period? The reason it became so popular as a setting for stories is because it gave you a harsh, lawless environment full of things trying to kill you, giving the heroes plenty of things to fight and overcome in a suitably dramatic fashion. Its horrificness is the whole basis of its appeal.

I think you'll be amazed at just how many people have borderline fetishes for the past. Or as I like to call it, "the same rubbish that brought us Star Trek Insurrection. See there for more details."

Fianna wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:27 pm When did anyone ever claim the Old West wasn't a horrific time period?

Doc Brown seemed to think highly of it.

You know, if Worf really wanted to make Eli lose it, he should have just taken his gun and held it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orLUjJP_TcQ

Don't touch Ellie's piece. He doesn't like it when you touch his piece.

Life in the Old West was brutal. Can you imagine having to download all your porn over a telegraph?

I've always liked this episode. Maybe because holodeck malfunctions don't even bother me any more. And it gave Dorn a chance to do some comedy, something I've always thought he was good at.