DIS: Vaulting Amition

[SuccubusYuri]

http://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/c112.php

We all have different perspectives on Discovery's first season, but I think as fans of Chuck's show, we must all agree that this episode justifies its existence xD

[Deledrius]

We all have different perspectives on Discovery's first season, but I think as fans of Chuck's show, we must all agree that this episode justifies its existence xD

Either that, or it's the episode where the curtain falls to reveal that nothing was holding it up all along.

The reviews, OTOH, are as great as ever.

[Yukaphile]

Nothing can justify STD's existence.

[MrL1992]

When he mentions about the 'mad rantings' in the show, I thought there's a lot of that in discussion around the show too!'

That bit about Janeway at the end floored me.

[ragnarokornot]

Right? DIS really irritated me but that bit at the end of the review makes the whole thing somehow worth it.

[bronnt]

I haven't been following Discovery, and these reviews make me feel vindicated since it looks nonsensical and poorly thought out. It appears as though they're trying to stuff too many big ideas into too small a space.

[Hero_Of_Shadows]

I, ... I think that bit at the end is the height of the Chakotay character for me, I don't care it's not canon nothing will ever top it.

[FlynnTaggart]

Nothing can justify STD's existence.

I dunno, having it exist for Chuck to tear into with such vigor not seen since the worst of Voyager I think is a pretty decent justification. Thats about the only one though.

More on topic, this seems like a point some viewers really said eff it. The spore driving letting you talk to the dead, cannibalism as if to show just how evil someone is, the Empress showing she went to the Amanda Waller school of dealing with underlings, and then that reveal. I think the show must have thought they were clever just like they thought they were clever with the Ash reveal. I think in both cases it fell flat, both out of universe with atleast some figuring out both and in universe because it helped destroy some interesting characters.

Lorca as a Starfleet captain who might fit better in the mirror universe was interesting, a captain more willing to do bad things even if for good reasons, someone more like Sisko sometimes. The fact he was just a evil alternate dimension space Nazi was stupid, as was the stupid "sensitive to light" thing. Why would they be more sensitive to light? If there was a reason for it like genetic modifications or something maybe but it seemed to imply it was a natural difference between humans of the different universes. And yet another thing that doesn't mesh with canon.

I get the feeling the writers of the show thought up a bunch of "cool" concepts and tossed them in with no care about the ramifications or even how they'd fit in the story like the altered Klingons, war crimes by Starfleet, the spore drive, the booty showing space suit, and the con artist guy being evil.

[BlackoutCreature2]

After watching this episode, I just have to ask, is the Mirror Universe's sensitivity to light backed up at all by established canon? It really feels like something the producers just pulled out of their ass.

[SuccubusYuri]

After watching this episode, I just have to ask, is the Mirror Universe's sensitivity to light backed up at all by established canon? It really feels like something the producers just pulled out of their ass.

I think, being generous, it's a tongue-in-cheek after-the-fact explanation why the mirror universe in the Berman-era, especially "In A Mirror Darkly", had low lighting and wore more dark colors. But no I don't think there's anything explicit. Perhaps in some Mirror novel, someone knows?

Though I will say it does give a new facet to the fact that the Agonizer booths glow.