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Crew: "Okay everyone, we're going to the Moon to infiltrate a terrorist group of human separatists."

T'Pol, a Vulcan: "Can I go?"

Crew: "I don't see what could go wrong with that."

So there was an interplanetary death-ray just sitting unsecured on mars? I'm thinking maybe those statistics chuck quoted weren't actually so far off. Damn dusters, leaving their IPDRs lying around; clearly, they don't care what happens to us lazy squats, living on basic.

Or maybe, it wasn't an accident. Maybe these Terra-Prime losers were just MCR patsies, no different from any other cog in the martian machine. Unwitting pawns set up to take revenge for Deimos, but without having to face political any responsibility.

Look what they did to our moon!

J!! wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:34 am So there was an interplanetary death-ray just sitting unsecured on mars? I'm thinking maybe those statistics chuck quoted weren't actually so far off. Damn dusters, leaving their IPDRs lying around; clearly, they don't care what happens to us lazy squats, living on basic.

Or maybe, it wasn't an accident. Maybe these Terra-Prime losers were just MCR patsies, no different from any other cog in the martian machine. Unwitting pawns set up to take revenge for Deimos, but without having to face political any responsibility.

Look what they did to our moon!

''Sitting unsecured'' is how the humans of Star Trek go about business lets be honest.

So there just happened to be random death ray on Mars for those Terra-Prime losers to hijack just like that. No security what so ever to make sure that no one can hijack it or anything like that. So is there reason why no one else had even tried to hijack it or even think about doing so before that.

Jonathan101 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:43 am https://www.sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/e196.php

Crew: "Okay everyone, we're going to the Moon to infiltrate a terrorist group of human separatists."

T'Pol, a Vulcan: "Can I go?"

Crew: "I don't see what could go wrong with that."

I agree, but at the same time, aliens in Star Trek are so painfully human you can get away with it most of the time.

I don't wish to be dirty, but I would argue it was less ''being an alien'' that got people looking at her and more ''big boobs, nice butt, nice legs''. If you want an operative to be invisible in a mostly male group, don't send a beautiful woman. You send the beautiful woman when ''giving him an erection'' is actually likely to improve the odds of the mission such as for example Black Widow over in the MCU.

Jonathan101 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:43 am https://www.sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/e196.php

Crew: "Okay everyone, we're going to the Moon to infiltrate a terrorist group of human separatists."

T'Pol, a Vulcan: "Can I go?"

Crew: "I don't see what could go wrong with that."

Reminds me of that old Soviet joke, where the Americans send their best trained spy to the Soviet Union, well mannered in everything related to Russian language and culture, only to be immediately discovered because he's black.

Of course Trip believes T'Pol has never been pregnant since they met. It is not as if a petite female could hide a pregnancy while wearing catsuits most of the time.

One of the things I love about this episode is that is shows just where ENT went right where STD did not in terms of making this show feel like a prequel. The camera headpieces for example which we saw in Generations. The Universal Translator worn where the commbadge would later fill the role and yet is a throwback to the handheld UT in TOS. A conference for an actual established event in Trek history as opposed to completely new and made-up plots. The comment that the shuttlepods are gradually being phased out in favour of transporters. Add that to the uniforms, the equipment, the NX-01 and you can see where this show fits.

Pity people at the time did not realise that.

You know, I don't think I ever watched this arc. I think it was about the penultimate one to the series finale, wasn't it? I just never got around to watching any more after the mirror-universe arc.

(Sometimes it happens - I have never gotten around to watching the last half of final SG-1 series, hbout half-plus of season 2 Atlantis or the movies.)

But a last-minute James Bond Villain thing isn't a bad way to end the series on (certainly a better way than the actual end they put out, which was part of the reason I never went back, since I heard enough about the finale to write it off as somethig I'd never watch).

Mecha82 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:49 pm So there just happened to be random death ray on Mars for those Terra-Prime losers to hijack just like that. No security what so ever to make sure that no one can hijack it or anything like that. So is there reason why no one else had even tried to hijack it or even think about doing so before that.

What is more it is a quality death ray. It can hit and severely damage the moon... FROM MARS.
I don't think people realize how long that beam is and how many things it has to account for to actually land a hit on a planetoid from that distance.