Was a pretty surprising short given its revelations of DISCO's fate before the second season even premiered. And now the character known as "Craft" is going to be featured in the third season, so we'll be learning more about why DISCO was abandoned and what happened with the characters.
I agree with Chuck that this was a strong short, but I think I'd give the Mudd short the edge simply because I found it immensely entertaining, being the best Mudd story of all Trek.
Re: Short Treks - "Calypso"
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:55 pm
by Mecha82
This was really good. Interaction between Craft and ship's computer was some of best between character on screen and one that is mostly voice that I have seen for some time. Bravo.
Re: Short Treks - "Calypso"
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:51 am
by Darth Wedgius
This was the short that every viewer I've heard from liked. I'm sure there are exceptions out there, but the reaction to it I've seen was overwhelmingly positive, even from viewers who hate Discovery.
I didn't know the short's writer was going to head up Picard. Interesting and positive news indeed.
Re: Short Treks - "Calypso"
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:18 am
by Salamon2
This short wasn't my best liked short at first viewing, but after viewing it a few times it grew on me to the point I felt like it was a good direction for the overall short trek idea. As Chuck put it: with this short, the Short Treks proved they could stand on their own two feet.
Re: Short Treks - "Calypso"
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:14 am
by CharlesPhipps
Salamon2 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:18 am
This short wasn't my best liked short at first viewing, but after viewing it a few times it grew on me to the point I felt like it was a good direction for the overall short trek idea. As Chuck put it: with this short, the Short Treks proved they could stand on their own two feet.
I feel like they should have removed a few battle scenes and used the money to expand the Short Treks to full episodes.
Re: Short Treks - "Calypso"
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:36 am
by Salamon2
CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:14 amI feel like they should have removed a few battle scenes and used the money to expand the Short Treks to full episodes.
But then all those battles that Gen Xers have been dreaming about since they could play with action figures will never be adapted. :p Seriously though, that's my biggest critique of a lot of modern interpretations of old properties like Star Wars and Star Trek. I half feel like I'm watching the grown up version of the action figure (and accessories) battles from the now grown up kids who were big fans of these properties in their childhood. I can't help but imagine that I'm seeing the culmination of years of playing with action figures come to fruition. You get the similar focus on spectacle and "and then more guys show up who don't even belong to this same play set, but they're here now because I say so!" kind of deal.
Speaking of the short treks again, my favorite Short Trek is The Brightest Star, because it gave Saru more development. Sure, it feels like it could be a B-plot to a normal episode, but I rather liked getting more character development on him and his species.
Re: Short Treks - "Calypso"
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:42 pm
by CrypticMirror
Darth Wedgius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:51 am
This was the short that every viewer I've heard from liked. I'm sure there are exceptions out there, but the reaction to it I've seen was overwhelmingly positive, even from viewers who hate Discovery.
Oh, brother, have I got something for you then.
I 100% disagree, respectfully, with Chuck about this episode (and 100% disrespectfully with Chabon too). I was already predisposed to dislike STD right from the off (I have a thing about the name "Michael", which put my back up right from the getgo, it is complicated and personal, and making her a personification of the fanfic trope of secret Spock's sister -god, I have seen so many of those fics- did the character no favours too) so it was always going to be a tough sell; and the show seemed to delight in showing every single thing I hated about later Trek short of a gratuitous Borg appearance.
This though, this, this, this...
Is made of pure spite to anyone who didn't fall at the feet of STD's greatness. It can fuck right off, with its Andromeda prologue shite. It can fuck right off with the whole Discovery will be here forever arse strip on underwear fuckitude. It can take its dancing with an AI rip off back to the Robocop tv series too. And if the architect behind this midden cloud of dung flies is behind the new Picard series, then I don't think even Patrick Stewart can save it. This is beyond worst of the worst, this goes into the same bin as the Animated episode which shall not be named, and every section 31 story except Inter Armin Something Something, a bin for episodes so bad that not even Threshold achieved it. I despised this thing.
In short; the only reason I would not use the script for this episode for toilet paper, is because it was already covered with shite.
I didn't like it.
Re: Short Treks - "Calypso"
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:22 pm
by CharlesPhipps
So your issue with it is that it feels derivative of Robocop the series and that it gives a sense of great weight as well as importance to the Discovery.
Re: Short Treks - "Calypso"
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:30 pm
by Worffan101
This was the first, last, and only unambiguously 100% good episode to come out of STD. (The Saru short was at least mildly entertaining but it was nothing special and weighed down by its implications) Absolutely fantastic writing, acting, and directing, I'd rank this with the opening scenes of "Up" as one of if not the best short sequences ever put to film.
I agree that Chabon helming the Picard show is a good sign.
Darth Wedgius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:51 am
This was the short that every viewer I've heard from liked. I'm sure there are exceptions out there, but the reaction to it I've seen was overwhelmingly positive, even from viewers who hate Discovery.
Oh, brother, have I got something for you then.
I 100% disagree, respectfully, with Chuck about this episode (and 100% disrespectfully with Chabon too). I was already predisposed to dislike STD right from the off (I have a thing about the name "Michael", which put my back up right from the getgo, it is complicated and personal, and making her a personification of the fanfic trope of secret Spock's sister -god, I have seen so many of those fics- did the character no favours too) so it was always going to be a tough sell; and the show seemed to delight in showing every single thing I hated about later Trek short of a gratuitous Borg appearance.
This though, this, this, this...
Is made of pure spite to anyone who didn't fall at the feet of STD's greatness. It can fuck right off, with its Andromeda prologue shite. It can fuck right off with the whole Discovery will be here forever arse strip on underwear fuckitude. It can take its dancing with an AI rip off back to the Robocop tv series too. And if the architect behind this midden cloud of dung flies is behind the new Picard series, then I don't think even Patrick Stewart can save it. This is beyond worst of the worst, this goes into the same bin as the Animated episode which shall not be named, and every section 31 story except Inter Armin Something Something, a bin for episodes so bad that not even Threshold achieved it. I despised this thing.
In short; the only reason I would not use the script for this episode for toilet paper, is because it was already covered with shite.
Seriously though, that's my biggest critique of a lot of modern interpretations of old properties like Star Wars and Star Trek. I half feel like I'm watching the grown up version of the action figure (and accessories) battles from the now grown up kids who were big fans of these properties in their childhood. I can't help but imagine that I'm seeing the culmination of years of playing with action figures come to fruition. You get the similar focus on spectacle and "and then more guys show up who don't even belong to this same play set, but they're here now because I say so!" kind of deal.