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O'Brien is charged with crimes against the Cardassian empire. In this episode he argues by trial for his innocence.

Finally someone who gets that just because you label yourself something doesn't make you that thing. Like how antifa is the most fascist group I know.

Antifa isn't a group, it's a tactic. Also, you may want to refresh your memory on what fascism is.


Edit: I didn't mean to be so dismissive, it's just that there's a lot of misinformation being spread about antifa and the left in general and I just wanted to clear things up if I could.

Openly fascist groups, such as the Proud Boys and the English Defense League are intentionally sparking violence with counter-protests to manipulate the way that people see their opponents. Because such a premium is placed on civility, they are trying to provoke antifa reactions so they can claim they didn't throw the first punch.

Antifa action is limited to the direct opposition of fascist organizing. This can include violent action, and if you have a problem with that, your concerns are legitimate, but what we are talking about is not a coup against the current government, or a plan to eliminate anyone who shares different views. What we are talking about, is being willing to punch Nazis. And again, there is a debate to be had about the validity or effectiveness of such a tactic, but that is what it is; nothing else.

And if you're hearing that antifa organizing is happening for any reason other than the direct opposition of currently active and open fascist groups, you are being lied to.

First two replies are immediate stereotypes of exactly what Chuck was ranting about. Who could have seen that coming?

drewder wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:16 amLike how antifa is the most fascist group I know.

I'm curious.

remagynona wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:13 am First two replies are immediate stereotypes of exactly what Chuck was ranting about. Who could have seen that coming?

I'm trying to speak about something specific that a lot of people are not familiar with, and not even trying to convince anyone if it's wrong or right. Please explain to me what, precisely, the problem is.

Freeverse wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:31 amOpenly fascist groups, such as the Proud Boys and the English Defense League are intentionally sparking violence with counter-protests to manipulate the way that people see their opponents. Because such a premium is placed on civility, they are trying to provoke antifa reactions so they can claim they didn't throw the first punch.

I think they just do it for the lulz as trolls do.

As for the episode, I find myself getting desensitized to O'Brien suffering as time goes on. The number of episodes dedicated just to not only pushing him to the ground but then forcing his face in dog poo is staggering. Slightly above average is probably where I would also put this one.

BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:19 am I think they just do it for the lulz as trolls do.

You can find candid recordings of fascist leaders talking about their strategy if you look hard enough. Most of them know that they can count on police to leave them alone while arresting the counter-protesters they provoke.

But, yeah, it's all about power in the end. They do it because they can.

remagynona wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:20 am As for the episode, I find myself getting desensitized to O'Brien suffering as time goes on. The number of episodes dedicated just to not only pushing him to the ground but then forcing his face in dog poo is staggering. Slightly above average is probably where I would also put this one.

He's the humble everyman so him being a victim of such episodes is them trying to make the impact harder felt.