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I remember this one. Pretty evocative but not particularly traumatizing or anything. Memorable that is.

I enjoyed this episode quite a bit. BTAS had an amazing way of humanizing its villains and making you sympathize with them. Baby-Doll was tragic, a woman trapped in the body of a child and she's fighting the man who grew up too soon. Her existence sounds horrifying and you can understand at least somewhat what broke her. Child actors have it rough, can't imagine how rough it is to be a permanent child actor despite being mentally anything but.

Still squicked that later she got with Killer Croc though. Everyone deserves love mind you but when its like a teacup chihuahua with a Great Dane just the mechanics alone is disturbing.

Also quite liked the assistant lady, managed to whoop Batman and Robin behinds in heels. Shame I think she only had the one appearance.

Fun thing about Baby Doll's two male henchmen, they're all based off of Gilligan's Island characters. They're clearly Gilligan and the Skipper in trenchcoats. Seems like in the DCAU, Bob Denver and Alan Hale Jr had just as rough times in society after their TV success as Mary Dahl did.

I remember loving this episode back when I first saw it. Baby Doll seems like an interesting villain concept, if nothing else, has she ever appeared in other Batman media?

FlynnTaggart wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:29 pm Still squicked that later she got with Killer Croc though. Everyone deserves love mind you but when its like a teacup chihuahua with a Great Dane just the mechanics alone is disturbing.

Um, besides this appearance later in the show. Some things are just sick and wrong.

...And what the heck was wrong with those vacationers in that episode anyway? "Oh hey, I recognize you! You were a supervillain Batman had to take down! Come on, dance for us villain-monkey!" Seriously, her reentering villainy may be on her, but that guy getting the crap beaten out of him? That's all on you, dude. Don't poke the recovering villain while she's trying to hold down a normal job! Even non-villainous customer service employees are perpetually close to snapping.

Edvarius wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:25 pm

FlynnTaggart wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:29 pm Still squicked that later she got with Killer Croc though. Everyone deserves love mind you but when its like a teacup chihuahua with a Great Dane just the mechanics alone is disturbing.

Um, besides this appearance later in the show. Some things are just sick and wrong.

...And what the heck was wrong with those vacationers in that episode anyway? "Oh hey, I recognize you! You were a supervillain Batman had to take down! Come on, dance for us villain-monkey!" Seriously, her reentering villainy may be on her, but that guy getting the crap beaten out of him? That's all on you, dude. Don't poke the recovering villain while she's trying to hold down a normal job! Even non-villainous customer service employees are perpetually close to snapping.

I actually don't remember that episode (thankfully, from the sounds of it, because that is seriously yuck), but I think my two favorite TAS episodes were the one where Harley was released, tried to go straight, and ended up having a major freakout due to escalating circumstances out of her control, and the one where Poison Ivy seemed to have reformed and settled down with a new family. Even though that last one turned out to be way creepier than I ever imagined a kids' show being, you still couldn't help but feel pity for Ivy while also condemning her for, well, being a supervillain doing supervillain things. I just loved that follow-through with the characters.

She's had a couple of one panel cameos here and there, but she hasn't really been used in anything outside of TAS.

I guess everyone figures the one story to do with her has been done as well as it can, no reason to port it to the comics.

Edvarius wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:25 pm ...And what the heck was wrong with those vacationers in that episode anyway? "Oh hey, I recognize you! You were a supervillain Batman had to take down! Come on, dance for us villain-monkey!" Seriously, her reentering villainy may be on her, but that guy getting the crap beaten out of him? That's all on you, dude. Don't poke the recovering villain while she's trying to hold down a normal job! Even non-villainous customer service employees are perpetually close to snapping.

To be fair to them while they might have been idiots (and just plain d-bags no matter who it was) Baby-Doll was probably seen more as a celeb who went crazy then a legit supervillain. She isn't the most villainous of villains, no body count or anything. She's might be more of a joke villain to some like Kit Man and the Carpenter, I don't think anybody would be too intimidated to make fun of a guy who flys around on kites. She's more like a celeb who shaves their head or shoplifts but with more dynamite and kidnapping (which as far as I know hasn't came up in crazy celeb antics....... yet). People IRL harass and mob celebs at times.

Definitely stupid and just plain mean though.

FlynnTaggart wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:26 pm
To be fair to them while they might have been idiots (and just plain d-bags no matter who it was) Baby-Doll was probably seen more as a celeb who went crazy then a legit supervillain. She isn't the most villainous of villains, no body count or anything. She's might be more of a joke villain to some like Kit Man and the Carpenter, I don't think anybody would be too intimidated to make fun of a guy who flys around on kites. She's more like a celeb who shaves their head or shoplifts but with more dynamite and kidnapping (which as far as I know hasn't came up in crazy celeb antics....... yet). People IRL harass and mob celebs at times.

Definitely stupid and just plain mean though.

Not a supervillain, but there was that internet troll who decided to target a professional boxer...

Yeah, people are dumb.

RobbyB1982 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:54 pm She's had a couple of one panel cameos here and there, but she hasn't really been used in anything outside of TAS.

I guess everyone figures the one story to do with her has been done as well as it can, no reason to port it to the comics.

Yeah.
I am sure they will get around to doing it again in another cartoon down the line, but there really isn't anywhere to go with her outside of this one story.

You could argue "Mean Seasons" from the series reboot "The New Adventures..." has the same issues, but with body dysmorphia instead of a disease.

Maybe you should do a review of The Shadow 1994, the character that Bob Kane plagiarise to create Batman, also take all the credit even that his co-creator did all the dirty job.

If you think that world wrong Bruce Wayne, look at Lamont Cranston or Kent Allard, he survived the WWI to then disappear for seven years to become a Tibetan Warlord, entering in the Opium Drug Trade, killing thousands of innocent people, to then forced to redeem himself, and fight crime, that what I call a good origin story, not become a superhero because his mommy and daddy issues, Cranston had darkness in him and darkness that reflect in the criminals that he fought against, that why the temptation it always was there, go to his lowest instinct and become a killer again, if you look the original character and Batman, the phrase: "When you look at the abyss, the abyss look at you." not seems much compared to Cranston, Batman actually never had the real danger of becoming a criminal at difference of The Shadow, that he had to fight his own demons not only the criminals.