Undiscovered Country Discussion

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

https://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/film6yt.php

[Rocketboy1313]

My favorite of the Star Trek movies with the TOS crew.
I really enjoy the "let them die" line from Kirk. While he is unquestionably a hero I like the idea that even heroes can get lost in conflict and prejudice when faced with a lifetime of fighting and loss (especially recent loss).
I know that Shatner was not a fan of it, but he does a great job selling the line and the regret for seeing that weakness in himself. I like flawed heroes.

[TGLS]

So what happened to Star Trek 5?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

So what happened to Star Trek 5?

What is there to say about it?

[clearspira]

So what happened to Star Trek 5?

Star Trek 2,3,4,6 comprise a clear quadrilogy of interconnecting films as far as Kirk's story goes. 1 and 5 have the barest links and certainly none that were intended by their creators. Imo you could add 7 to either list.

[TGLS]

All I know is that 5 was in the schedule and 6 wasn't.

[HumanXeroxMachine]

I too was expecting a video on The Final Frontier. I was curious to hear how Chuck felt about it recently.

Before 2013, I didn't really like V all that much. I found it pretty weak but after the passing of my Dad, I gave it a rewatch and the scene where Sybok confronts Bones hit me hard. I lost my dad in a very similar way and I really related with Bones. The whole scene is very good. I came to re-evaluate the movie and ended up liking it a lot more than I used to. Yes V is a pretty flawed film but there's stuff to enjoy in it as well. I find the movie quite underrated and worthy of re-discussion but I could understand not wanting to do it though.

[Wilahelm2]

This has always been my favorite of the Trek movies with the original crew. As a history major in school the way this movie was clearly inspired by the end of the Cold War always made it stand out to me. It is also a great end to Kirk's story. I know Rodenberry had issues with how Star Fleet was becoming more militarized but this film has always seemed to be the most inline with his optimistic view of the future. The legendary warrior Kirk ends the conflict with the Klingons once and for all not in a epic battle but by letting go of his anger and helping to forge peace between the two sides.

[J!!]

So what happened to Star Trek 5?

Shatner got to direct it.

[RobbyB1982]

Chuck said on twitter that all of the vids were going to youtube smoothly... EXCEPT 5. Because of course.

So if its being a real headache about footage somewhere he probably just pushed 6 out since it was ready and will fight with 5 some more later.

Maybe it'll end up being the Christmas movie again.