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Island of Lost Souls
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:25 am
by ChrisTheLovableJerk
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https://sfdebris.com/videos/films/islandoflostsouls.php!
Hope Chuck will cover other classic horror films from this era. I confess the Legosi Dracula didn't impress me but the first two Frankenstein films really struck me.
It's a sad thing Richard Stanley's vision of the 96 film never came to pass, it probably would have been the definitive version had it not fallen apart (seriously, check out the documentary on it, it's great)
Re: Island of Lost Souls
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:53 am
by Deledrius
This was an interesting review! I had never seen this adaptation. As always, hearing about the context and behind-the-scenes information was quite fascinating.
To be honest, given Chuck's penchant for musical references, I was surprised to not hear any direct use or mention of Oingo Boingo's "No Spill Blood" given that it quotes this film directly, but perhaps it was too on-the-nose because of that; the musical selections do tend to come at things on a bit of a diagonal.
Re: Island of Lost Souls
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:24 pm
by Mindworm
I would point out one mistake in the review. Chuck says the Nazis practised eugenics on those deemed racially inferior or sexually deviant. He's wrong in that, while the Nazis did practise eugenics on the above criteria they did also sterilise those they saw as habitual criminals, they sterilised and later killed off those suffering from psychiatric illnesses or who were disabled. The Lebensunwertes Leben programme of the mid to late '30s developed many of the techniques later used in Treblinka or Auschwitz. The first gas chambers (which were vans where the exhausts could be pumped into the rear cargo cabins where the victims were located) were filled with the disabled.
And Hitler got his views regarding "habitual criminals" and the disabled directly from the Fabian Society, the socialist club which so ardently championed eugenics twenty years earlier.
Re: Island of Lost Souls
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:47 pm
by Beastro
Mindworm wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:24 pm
I would point out one mistake in the review. Chuck says the Nazis practised eugenics on those deemed racially inferior or sexually deviant. He's wrong in that, while the Nazis did practise eugenics on the above criteria they did also sterilise those they saw as habitual criminals, they sterilised and later killed off those suffering from psychiatric illnesses or who were disabled. The
Lebensunwertes Leben programme of the mid to late '30s developed many of the techniques later used in Treblinka or Auschwitz. The first gas chambers (which were vans where the exhausts could be pumped into the rear cargo cabins where the victims were located) were filled with the disabled.
And Hitler got his views regarding "habitual criminals" and the disabled directly from the Fabian Society, the socialist club which so ardently championed eugenics twenty years earlier.
Life unworthy of life
Re: Island of Lost Souls
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:46 pm
by Muzer
Part 1 of this already seems to have disappeared from YouTube...
Re: Island of Lost Souls
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:53 pm
by SFDebris
Try it now.
Re: Island of Lost Souls
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:18 pm
by Muzer
Sorted, cheers
Re: Island of Lost Souls
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:02 am
by Rocketboy1313
"Island" is one of those science fiction stories that is definitely part of the canon, but it is also one of those stories whose sci-fi aspects are so out of date that they just do not connect with audiences like they did at the time (the discussion about vivisection great illustration of the point).
The modern equivalent of this would be something more like Jurassic Park, island of monsters, man's hubris, fears of science run amok... but you know, science that still seems viable and realistic.
The stuff in "Island" is borderline sorcery.
Re: Island of Lost Souls
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:22 am
by TGLS
Rocketboy1313 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:02 am
"Island" is one of those science fiction stories that is definitely part of the canon, but it is also one of those stories whose sci-fi aspects are so out of date that they just do not connect with audiences like they did at the time (the discussion about vivisection great illustration of the point).
The modern equivalent of this would be something more like Jurassic Park, island of monsters, man's hubris, fears of science run amok... but you know, science that still seems viable and realistic.
The stuff in "Island" is borderline sorcery.
Isn't that the fate of all science fiction? Extremely prescient or dated the point of mockery.
Re: Island of Lost Souls
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:35 am
by Muzer
TGLS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:22 am
Rocketboy1313 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:02 am
"Island" is one of those science fiction stories that is definitely part of the canon, but it is also one of those stories whose sci-fi aspects are so out of date that they just do not connect with audiences like they did at the time (the discussion about vivisection great illustration of the point).
The modern equivalent of this would be something more like Jurassic Park, island of monsters, man's hubris, fears of science run amok... but you know, science that still seems viable and realistic.
The stuff in "Island" is borderline sorcery.
Isn't that the fate of all science fiction? Extremely prescient or dated the point of mockery.
in the fullness of time, maybe; but for some works this inevitable end comes quicker than for others...