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One of the best Klingon episodes of TNG's run, and I'll have to agree with Chuck that the only real disappointment is that having pulled off K'ehleyr's improved characterization in comparison to the Emissary, seeing her killed off so quick does feel like a waste. Even something interaction between her and Kurn could have been quite interesting.

On the other hand, it was sooooo satisfying to see Duras finally get his. And OFC, the introduction of Gowron!

Really good episode and seeing him kill Duras was great. But yeah, losing K'ehleyr was a high price to pay. She had potential.

I guess one of the things that isn't half human on K'ehleyr is her vagina given how she gave birth to a baby with a huge spiky head. I don't even have a vagina and I am crossing my legs at the thought. And yes, you may thank me for that horrific mental image.

I also personally doubt that a Bat'leth could take on an actual sword. The effective reach on this weapon is so shitty, and the thing is so heavy and unwieldy that well... there is a reason why literally every culture in human history has developed some version of the sword whereas none as ever developed the Bat'leth. Or at least, not that lived long enough to write it down. And what's funny is that later on we learn that Kahless used a much smaller version with a huge spike on it that looks as if it actually worked - opening up the plot hole as to why anyone would use the new Bat'leth when it isn't what their greatest warrior used.

Suzie Plakston who plays K'ehleyr also played the Vulcan Dr Selar and Lady Q. But more interestingly, just after this episode, she took a starring role in the TV series ''Dinosaurs'' and ''Love and War''. I wonder if she even could have had a recurring role in TNG making the problem of killing her off a moot point.

She wasn't doing much during DS9 though which opens two possibilities if the character had lived: 1) No Worf/Jadzia/Ezri relationship or 2) A love triangle. The latter would have been fun, the former probably would have led to Bashir/Jadzia/Ezri.

Klingons have had energy weapons for a long time, and presumably had projectile weapons for a while before that. The only reason to bring a large melee weapon into battle is for duels of honor, and as long as everyone's using the same weapon, the practicality of the weapon doesn't matter.

clearspira wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 11:07 pmI also personally doubt that a Bat'leth could take on an actual sword. The effective reach on this weapon is so shitty, and the thing is so heavy and unwieldy that well... there is a reason why literally every culture in human history has developed some version of the sword whereas none as ever developed the Bat'leth. Or at least, not that lived long enough to write it down. And what's funny is that later on we learn that Kahless used a much smaller version with a huge spike on it that looks as if it actually worked - opening up the plot hole as to why anyone would use the new Bat'leth when it isn't what their greatest warrior used.

I kinda assumed that the bat'leth was a ceremonial weapon that people started using as an actual war weapon because of wacky Klingons being wacky. It would be like if in a human culture someone took one of those really engraved swords or guns used as essentially weapon art or ceremonial trophies and decided to take it into battle, blasting away with a gold inlaid 1911 pistol with a bunch of modifications to make it pretty. Because swords and guns like that are designed more to look nice rather then be functional they probably aren't going to be the best swinging or shooting weapon compared to an actual dedicated weapon.

The Klingons are dedicated to rituals and rites so its not shocking that something that is meant to be ceremonial, something to be broken out when Ml'ady of House Weea'boo insults the honor of Ke'nshin of House An'ime by saying dubbed is superior to subbed and they gotta settle things in a duel. Not an actual weapon but something based on the honored sword of Kahless that people started using an actual weapon.

Or the Klingons really got into fantasy weapons way back when. The bat'leth is like those wavy flame swords, K-Bar swords or dual katanas you can find at flea markets.

Good episode, a sad thing is that I kind of wish K'ehleyr had lived and Alexander had died. The poor kid never really fit in on the show and suffered from tv show kid aging. K'ehleyr had depth to her that really did add a lot to Worf's character.

Also, wasn't Minsk (the city Worf grew up in) in Belarus, not Russia? Then again Belarus means something like "white Russians" so saying he's going to live in a Russian winter is probably still accurate.

Beelzquill wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:27 am
Also, wasn't Minsk (the city Worf grew up in) in Belarus, not Russia? Then again Belarus means something like "white Russians" so saying he's going to live in a Russian winter is probably still accurate.

The episode came out in 1990 according to IMDB. Belarus had just become independent a few months beforehand.

oh right, I forgot.