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Batman TAS Babydoll
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:43 pm
by Thebestoftherest
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Why is it that if this show would be made today that baby doll would have to wait in a line of mother complaining the same way she did.
Re: Batman TAS Babydoll
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:14 pm
by Madner Kami
Delete the link and only include the tag/filename (in this case aX9v1xH_Kf8) of the video
Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:43 pmWhy is it that if this show would be made today that baby doll would have to wait in a line of mother complaining the same way she did.
I don't quite follow. What do you mean?
As for the episode itself, it's one of the few pieces of media that really hits where it hurts. Seeing that broken woman's self-imposed identity fall apart in the face of what she should be, is just heart-breaking. What else could you do, but take her into your arms and hug her tightly despite all she has done and would have done if she had gotten the chance? She was assigned one of the shortest straws life had to offer and, all too understandably, broke under the pressure of this horrible fate.
The character absolutely shouldn't have been brought back lateron though... Anyways, it's really villains like these that Batman should be with, as that's where he shines. Batman against Thanos and functional gods is just stupid and flat out unbelievable. Batman is a study in psychology.
Re: Batman TAS Babydoll
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:31 pm
by Thebestoftherest
The joke is that real mothers were be making the same complaint her minion did.
Re: Batman TAS Babydoll
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:14 am
by Scififan
She does return in a later episode, but it isn't nearly as good.
Re: Batman TAS Babydoll
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:44 pm
by BlackoutCreature2
After watching this review I'm kinda curious what the story is behind the businesswoman who was helping Baby Dahl? Was she another hired gun? A crazed fan? Does she have some kind of pre-existing relationship with Dahl? What made her decide to throw her lot in with this plan?
Re: Batman TAS Babydoll
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:38 pm
by CrypticMirror
Maybe the business woman's outfit was her costume? She's really a business suit themed ninja? Ninja lawyer? They'll cut you to pieces for a settlement.
Re: Batman TAS Babydoll
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:24 pm
by Madner Kami
BlackoutCreature2 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:44 pm
After watching this review I'm kinda curious what the story is behind the businesswoman who was helping Baby Dahl? Was she another hired gun? A crazed fan? Does she have some kind of pre-existing relationship with Dahl? What made her decide to throw her lot in with this plan?
Head-canon: tIt's Mercy, Luthor's later main henchwoman. This character appears in 94 and Mercy's first appearance is in 96. Their behaviour and combat-style are just too similar to not make that connection.
Re: Batman TAS Babydoll
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:31 pm
by BlackoutCreature2
Madner Kami wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:24 pm
BlackoutCreature2 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:44 pm
After watching this review I'm kinda curious what the story is behind the businesswoman who was helping Baby Dahl? Was she another hired gun? A crazed fan? Does she have some kind of pre-existing relationship with Dahl? What made her decide to throw her lot in with this plan?
Head-canon: tIt's Mercy, Luthor's later main henchwoman. This character appears in 94 and Mercy's first appearance is in 96. Their behaviour and combat-style are just too similar to not make that connection.
Ok, now my new head-canon - Lex decided to loan Mercy out to Baby Dahl as part of some weird scheme for LexCorp to obtain the syndication rights for "Love That Baby".
Edit: According to the DCAU wiki, the woman's name is Mariam. Also, there was apparently some dialogue where Robin complimented her on her fighting skills and she responded with "it's a living", so I'm guessing she was just another hired goon.
Re: Batman TAS Babydoll
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:27 pm
by BridgeConsoleMasher
Madner Kami wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:14 pmThe character absolutely shouldn't have been brought back lateron though... Anyways, it's really villains like these that Batman should be with, as that's where he shines. Batman against Thanos and functional gods is just stupid and flat out unbelievable. Batman is a study in psychology.
Writing Batman in Justice League is about as complicated as writing Superman standalone. You basically have to make their plot in the story about them being a vulnerable human as much them being a hero.
In JL Clark Kent doesn't matter because they're either going away from the planet or saving the planet whole sale. In Batman's own stories, he never really has to explain himself because its always his house/rules and it works all the better for the backdrop of his emotional story with less words needed (while Superman is generally just never confident in himself when on Earth).
All and all though, I must disagree with you and Fuzzy Necromancer that Batman's predominant worth as a superhero has to do with him talking to kids or people who physically resemble kids.
Re: Batman TAS Babydoll
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:44 pm
by Beastro
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:27 pm
All and all though, I must disagree with you and Fuzzy Necromancer that Batman's predominant worth as a superhero has to do with him talking to kids or people who physically resemble kids.
I don't see him saying kids, but humans with troubled minds and souls.
There's nothing superhuman to the Joker, Penguin and many others. Even when they do it, like Clayface, what shines is how mental troubles not their powers.
That's were the comic book medium fails Batman. It's easy enough to show Superman's powers and put his strength on display, but it's very difficult to show some genius detective when your average writer writing him is far from a genius.
I seriously get a chuckle every time people just claim that Batman has some genius intellect. I ran into that a couple weeks ago when friend's son was watching something on the phone at a party. It was going on about how the genius of Batman and Tony Stark differ and it was just empty statements that had no substance that mainly resolved around how they used their intelligence to make advanced suits of armour to defeat god-like beings (which just reveals the crutch writers fall on to express intellect through technology).
You keep things grounded, less elaborate and you get things like this where you have a nice, simply little story with some depth to it centered around the plight of an actress that had her go down a dark path.