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A look at child play (Voyager)

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:19 pm
by Thebestoftherest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV2GBk5rDok

Opinionated Voyager Episode Guide watches Icheb finally go home to his sweet planet of gravel and scrubs.

Re: A look at child play (Voyager)

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:48 pm
by FaxModem1
Man, looking back, Icheb's life has been one of constant suffering and abuse interrupted by his time aboard Voyager where people actually gave a shit about him. And even then, Q killed him once.

Re: A look at child play (Voyager)

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:00 pm
by Deledrius
Really makes me despise ST:Picard all over again.

Re: A look at child play (Voyager)

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:33 pm
by clearspira
Icheb's death is 100% Janeway's fault for going back in time and changing history. That episode where Voyager gets split into multiple timezones shows that Icheb was destined to a happy life working alongside - and possibly boning - Naomi Wildman.

In fact while we are on the subject, given how no one in ''Endgame'' mentions Romulans, the destruction of Mars, or rampaging androids, I like to think that Janeway is somehow responsible for the destruction of Romulus too. Maybe one of her questionable orders held up Spock's jellyfish ship and stopped it from getting there in time.

Re: A look at child play (Voyager)

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:44 pm
by TGLS
clearspira wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:33 pm In fact while we are on the subject, given how no one in ''Endgame'' mentions Romulans, the destruction of Mars, or rampaging androids, I like to think that Janeway is somehow responsible for the destruction of Romulus too.
I wonder if part of the reason they did Enterprise instead of some post-Voyager show was because they were concerned it would make Janeway's time travel look negligent and foolish.

Re: A look at child play (Voyager)

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:33 pm
by stryke
clearspira wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:33 pm Icheb's death is 100% Janeway's fault for going back in time and changing history. That episode where Voyager gets split into multiple timezones shows that Icheb was destined to a happy life working alongside - and possibly boning - Naomi Wildman
That one you can blame on Chakotay as they were in a timeline specifically based on the ship taking a bunch of casualties from being split into the various timezones which then got undone if I remember right. So prior to Janeway doing what she did in the finale. Still, yes for Icheb that is by far the happiest timeline by miles.

Also great review that one with some spot on humour.

Re: A look at child play (Voyager)

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:08 pm
by CrypticMirror
I hope that if PIC S2 really is doing time travel, they find a way to resurrect Icheb even if it is just a cameo and accident rather than deliberate design.

Re: A look at child play (Voyager)

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:49 pm
by Deledrius
CrypticMirror wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:08 pm I hope that if PIC S2 really is doing time travel, they find a way to resurrect Icheb even if it is just a cameo and accident rather than deliberate design.
That would be great. Giving Hugh and/or Icheb a second chance would be more meaningful to me than Picard at this point.

Re: A look at child play (Voyager)

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:03 pm
by Fianna
Chuck's making a final dash for that Voyager finishing line, ain't he? Any guesses what the final episode reviewed will be?

Re: A look at child play (Voyager)

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:52 pm
by TGLS
Fianna wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:03 pm Chuck's making a final dash for that Voyager finishing line, ain't he? Any guesses what the final episode reviewed will be?
Place your bets now ladies and gentlemen:
S4E03 - Day of Honor
S4E15 - Hunters
S5E07 - Infinite Regress
S5E13 - Gravity
S7E12 - Lineage
S7E14 - Prophecy
S7E22 - Natural Law