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TGLS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:02 am Sorry Chuck, there's 14 Tuvok/Neelix slashfics.

clearspira wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:34 am Although it still amuses me that once again Kim is refusing sex on a plate and yet continues to chase women that he cannot possibly have. For Libby damn it, because there is nothing gay about this.

Fianna wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 3:52 pm You wonder if some of the new Star Trek series that are coming out will ever have Klingons discuss the fact that a) their Messiah has been born, and b) it's three-quarters human and a Federation citizen?

m4a2000 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 8:18 am

TGLS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:02 am Sorry Chuck, there's 14 Tuvok/Neelix slashfics.

No one needed to know that.

LordFeagans wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 4:12 pm

clearspira wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:34 am Although it still amuses me that once again Kim is refusing sex on a plate and yet continues to chase women that he cannot possibly have. For Libby damn it, because there is nothing gay about this.

If you completely ignore Non-Sequitor or assume that all of it was a fiction created for Harry Kim, then you can completely assume that Libby was yet another woman that Harry Kim was fixated on that he couldn't have but lied to the Voyager crew about. Like she was the girl next door that he grew up with that had zero interest in him and he assumed that just because they were neighbors that they were supposed to be destined to fall in love all while she couldn't pick him out of a police line up of three people, two of which being Klingons.

When communication between Voyager and the Delta Quadrant becomes possible, there is no video call from Libby or even a mention of Libby. When the first batch of messages come in from the Delta Quadrant, no Libby message, each time it's Harry's parents. Now, it can be assumed that Libby eventually moved on (if they were really together), but we never see Harry mope or even mention Libby's new relationship. Janeway at least mentioned her Dear John letter from Mark. And in the episode "Bliss", there was, again, no news about Libby. Mark was free to marry Janeway, but no mention of Libby.

clearspira wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:31 pm

LordFeagans wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 4:12 pm

clearspira wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:34 am Although it still amuses me that once again Kim is refusing sex on a plate and yet continues to chase women that he cannot possibly have. For Libby damn it, because there is nothing gay about this.

I wonder that's what happened here. The aliens of ''Non-Sequitur'' confused Kim's crush/fling with someone of real substance and that's why Kim seems so awkward around her.

So, new theory, Libby is the 24th-century version of "I have a girlfriend, she lives in Canada, you've never met her." That would explain why he mentions her, never gets any messages from her, no video call from her, next gets broken up by her break up message (and keep in mind the shit he went through when the hologram dumped him for Tuvok, and what he went through with that woman who gave him the alien STD). So, you would think that getting the message from the love of his life that she's moved on would have shattered him. Instead, no mention. Almost like, there was no relationship, or...she ever existed.

So, in "Non-Sequitur", Harry acts of odd around Libby because he woke up next to his made up Canadian girlfriend.

Honestly, I don't know what sounds better:

1) Libby is the girl that Harry never had a relationship with, lied to his crewmates to sound older and more mature around his more experienced veteran crewmates, and now that he is with her, it's like he found out that he hates her taste in music and that she can't cook and now he's realizing, his crush isn't the soulmate he thought she was.

2) Libby never existed and didn't know how to act around her. Add in Chuck's theory that Harry hates himself, good chance that Harry imagined Libby to be a terrible shrew who hates him while cheating on him with his friends and coworkers while insulting him and making him feel like complete and total shit. So now that he is with his fantasy woman, who he loves and knows that she hates him, he is awkward around her knowing that she's a ticking time bomb and eventually she's going to fly off in an angry rage against him for not being man enough to leave the toilet seat up.

TGLS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:20 pm

m4a2000 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 8:18 am

TGLS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:02 am Sorry Chuck, there's 14 Tuvok/Neelix slashfics.

No one needed to know that.

No one did, but when I found out I had to share.