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The V
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:25 am
by Fuzzy Necromancer
V part one
http://sfdebris.com/videos/tv/v1.php
V part two
http://sfdebris.com/videos/tv/v2.php
Given that we have actual, dyed-in-the-wool Nazis stomping around with torches on our college campuses, this work seems very apropos and worth reexamining.
Re: The V
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:17 am
by Karha of Honor
It could easily be the case that a couple of years from now these events will seem to be irrelevant.
Re: The V
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:04 pm
by Fuzzy Necromancer
I think the V will always be relevant. It's topical, but it's also timeless.
Re: The V
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:42 pm
by Arkle
I remember watching the original with my parents as a kid.
Never bothered with the remake (which for some bizarre reason a lot of Tea Partiers glommed onto; I am not kidding when I saw people literally using footage and caps from the V remake in their anti-Obama rants as if it proved some kind of point).
Re: The V
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:52 pm
by Karha of Honor
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote:I think the V will always be relevant. It's topical, but it's also timeless.
If i would have watched it i could have an answer.
Re: The V
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:45 am
by Fuzzy Necromancer
It's still available on DVD for a fairly decent price. I'd check it out if you can. =o
Re: The V
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:04 am
by FaxModem1
Arkle wrote:I remember watching the original with my parents as a kid.
Never bothered with the remake (which for some bizarre reason a lot of Tea Partiers glommed onto; I am not kidding when I saw people literally using footage and caps from the V remake in their anti-Obama rants as if it proved some kind of point).
The remake had the aliens' evil plan being to infiltrate us and gaining loyalty by giving humans free healthcare. That's why.
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I love the original miniseries. We see all slices of American life reacting to a change in the status quo, and everyone's reactions varies, whether positively or negatively. The allegory is wonderful, in seeing how people would react to rising fascism, and their previous quality of life fading away. A normal medical research student becomes the leader of a resistance movement, a small time hoodlum becomes the defacto smuggler and acquirer of goods for the resistance, a plant worker becomes one of the best minds in the resistance, a disgruntled teenager whose life was probably only going to amount to work small jobs become a prominent member of the Secret Police, etc.
We also see how most of the populace openly accepts the change in power, and just tries to move on with their lives. Some are just utterly blind to what's happening around them until it's too late. Others use it as an opportunity to rise in station.
It makes a powerful case of how a free society could be conquered, due to simple complicity and lack of attention.
Re: The V
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:16 am
by Karha of Honor
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote:It's still available on DVD for a fairly decent price. I'd check it out if you can. =o
I got to many things on my list right now. Might put it on one day.
Re: The V
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:37 am
by Beastro
Edit, Damn double posts.
Re: The V
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:40 am
by Beastro
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote:Given that we have actual, dyed-in-the-wool Nazis stomping around with torches on our college campuses, this work seems very apropos and worth reexamining.
All the more with Communists violently going about acting like their ilk did in the 30s while acting as if they aren't the other side of a coin that should have been buried in the 20th Century.
Something I was tired of since I was a kid was how blatant allusions to Facism have been while those of Communism are always abstract to the point of being unidentifiable, like the Borg. In one it's so blatantly beaten on it ruins most shows, in the other it's so hidden it can get away with being a criticism and condemnation of the cancerous ideology.