Harry and Meghan Talk To Oprah

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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:44 pm
Riedquat wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:38 pm Because that wouldn't carry the weight of history and tradition and all being part of the pomp and so on. You might think that's nonsense but it's also real.
Well this is America. And let me tell you about how we do things.
I've seen how you do things with the head of state you've only just recently got rid of.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:58 am Make the wretched Windsors work for a living. Eight hours a day doing photo ops with tourists, showing up at birthday parties, instead of just getting to hoard all those crown jewels they can't even wear. If they can afford the upkeep on that palace they get to keep it.

Gotta say though, other countries have proven that you can keep the palace without the monarchs.
They've served in the armed forces, and on real deployments, not just in a token for show sense.
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Riedquat wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:49 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:44 pm
Riedquat wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:38 pm Because that wouldn't carry the weight of history and tradition and all being part of the pomp and so on. You might think that's nonsense but it's also real.
Well this is America. And let me tell you about how we do things.
I've seen how you do things with the head of state you've only just recently got rid of.
Not my president.
..What mirror universe?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:26 pm
Riedquat wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:49 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:44 pm
Riedquat wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:38 pm Because that wouldn't carry the weight of history and tradition and all being part of the pomp and so on. You might think that's nonsense but it's also real.
Well this is America. And let me tell you about how we do things.
I've seen how you do things with the head of state you've only just recently got rid of.
Not my president.
I'm assuming that you're from the USA (from "Well this is America"), so like it or not, he was.
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Riedquat wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:03 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:26 pm
Riedquat wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:49 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:44 pm
Riedquat wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:38 pm Because that wouldn't carry the weight of history and tradition and all being part of the pomp and so on. You might think that's nonsense but it's also real.
Well this is America. And let me tell you about how we do things.
I've seen how you do things with the head of state you've only just recently got rid of.
Not my president.
I'm assuming that you're from the USA (from "Well this is America"), so like it or not, he was.

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That a weird response.
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Thebestoftherest wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:03 am That a weird response.
Weird but effective.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:30 am
Thebestoftherest wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:03 am That a weird response.
Weird but effective.
Completely ineffective, because I haven't got the faintest idea what you're trying to say with it.
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Riedquat wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:19 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:30 am
Thebestoftherest wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:03 am That a weird response.
Weird but effective.
Completely ineffective, because I haven't got the faintest idea what you're trying to say with it.
I'm not sure if anybody really did on that last one.
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Riedquat wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:00 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:53 pm
I think it's just a basic matter of inequality standards, and not freedom from tyrannical regime doctrines.

Socialistically, any kind of revenue that flows in their direction is just a leech on not just the state, but the nation. Possibly humanity.

Really though I'm not really sure of if it's even much of a burden on society in the grand scheme of things. I don't think you can necessarily get away with calling their "subsidy" non-exclusive or non-rival public good or anything, but it's certainly not very intrusive to the market.
As long as it doesn't really tip any balances or change any real balance of power I find it hard to get bothered TBH (and I wouldn't want all that public exposure for any money).

Whether or not it's a negative to the state or not is a subject of endless debate. There's the obvious - Buckingham Palance is usually surrounded by tourists (not so much right now obviously), but it can also be quite helpful on the international stage - whether senior figures in the rest of the world should take them seriously or not they do.
The monarch has their place, usually involving extenuating circumstances where intercession is required as a last resort.

The 1975 Australian Constitutional Crisis is a good example, handled through the Governor-General: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Aust ... nal_crisis
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:44 pm
Well this is America. And let me tell you about how we do things.
Given that your country's in the process of falling into stasis, I wouldn't be thumbing my nose at older, more stable systems of government if I were you.
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:58 am Gotta say though, other countries have proven that you can keep the palace without the monarchs.
And how old are those countries institutions? Oh, right, the oldest (The US) is little over 200 years old. The monarchy in Britain goes back over a millennium.
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