No Way to Prevent This-mass shooting

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Thebestoftherest wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:36 am Are you willing to accept it her own fault for not knowing when to close her mouth (so to speak)?
I'll counter that with the assertion that her dismissal and purging, toys and books removed, reveals very poor management and double standards as well as something far more sinister. Obviously a business has every right to want an employee to play ball as well as who they associate with, but it's an overreaction to something minor if they are going far past an employee sacking and instead trying to remove all trace of her. This is provable fact when her toyline has been canceled and those Mando books were canceled, likely since she was in them. What if Disney goes on to edit out her appearances in Mando S1 and S2? Do you support that?

The fault lies with the head managers. Sure, Ms. Carano knew about the double standard, but isn't it admirable for someone to stick to their guns despite corporate and social pressure? Do you lefties just want conformity to what YOU believe? That's how it feels to me. You think America is going Nazi Germany via right-wing politics, but many German acquaintances I have think it's due to the leftist bent we have now. I think more personally that the ruling elites just find useful patsies in the naive left to use to divide us further and conservatives are merely a convenient scapegoat since some of the worst presidents of the last few decades were republican affiliated. This is just a poor business decision. How often have we seen an article from some MSM outlet like The Hill with the disclaimer "the content is this article is an opinion piece and whose views do not reflect the outlet." That's sound business, as the Forbes article laid out. I've had people in my own retail outlet employ similar management tactics.

Let's not shift the goalposts to put the blame on her. Mr. Pascal put pronouns in his bios, but that she didn't... how about ALL the other employees there who didn't? "Beep Bop Beep" isn't mockery of trans people if they weren't such triggered snowflakes they can't take a JOKE. Call me a hillbilly all day long, I'd probably laugh right along with you. What's that say about marginalized groups nowadays? It feels like professional victimhood. But Disney has no clear standard of behavior for their employees, otherwise people wouldn't feel so unsettled by this. If it's okay for Mr. Pascal to make commentary on Nazi Germany, why not conservatives? Or do you really think they should just be purged and blacklisted? Do you think that's right? Do you think tolerance is reserved only for those who share your viewpoints and those with an opposing philosophy shouldn't be defended?
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I think the problem comes down to Me Pascal was doing nothing wrong, while Ms Carano simply did something to be aggressive against some trolls and it backfire on her.
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Thebestoftherest wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:54 am I think the problem comes down to Me Pascal was doing nothing wrong, while Ms Carano simply did something to be aggressive against some trolls and it backfire on her.
You're dodging the question. Do you support her toyline canceled, books centered around her canceled, and what I foresee as her appearances being edited out of TM? The new blacklisting is in and many people have a hard time denying it now.

It's sure as H not the same as totalitarian authoritarianism that I see the right complaining about, but it is entirely representative to the '50s era of McCarthy hearings.

Mr. Pascal acts like a tool, let's not kid ourselves, especially to right-wingers and the fact he was lying about kids in cages - that was another country, not the USA. That stuff happening is most definitely wrong here, and what a shock, not being addressed by Mr. Biden, who thought otherwise, but if you're going to make those comparisons, please got the danged countries correct.

Like, Disney has no moral high ground or consistency here. They should just forbid Holocaust comparisons or all employees or fired. If Ms. Carano was a democrat, then make no mistake, this wouldn't be an issue and wouldn't have happened.

Answer the question, if you please. Do you support the new blacklisting based on what we see now?
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There a difference between a company not wanting to keep paying for the likeness of a person and government forcing people out of a job. I be lying if I said the idea of her toyline being unable to work anywhere in film or tv ever again. If you think they wouldn't fire a leftist for stupid reason check James Gunn.
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Thebestoftherest wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:08 am There a difference between a company not wanting to keep paying for the likeness of a person and government forcing people out of a job. I be lying if I said the idea of her toyline being unable to work anywhere in film or tv ever again. If you think they wouldn't fire a leftist for stupid reason check James Gunn.
So a complete non-answer. Thank you for that.

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Captain Crimson wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:00 am
Thebestoftherest wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:54 am I think the problem comes down to Me Pascal was doing nothing wrong, while Ms Carano simply did something to be aggressive against some trolls and it backfire on her.
You're dodging the question. Do you support her toyline canceled, books centered around her canceled, and what I foresee as her appearances being edited out of TM? The new blacklisting is in and many people have a hard time denying it now.

It's sure as H not the same as totalitarian authoritarianism that I see the right complaining about, but it is entirely representative to the '50s era of McCarthy hearings.

Mr. Pascal acts like a tool, let's not kid ourselves, especially to right-wingers and the fact he was lying about kids in cages - that was another country, not the USA. That stuff happening is most definitely wrong here, and what a shock, not being addressed by Mr. Biden, who thought otherwise, but if you're going to make those comparisons, please got the danged countries correct.

Like, Disney has no moral high ground or consistency here. They should just forbid Holocaust comparisons or all employees or fired. If Ms. Carano was a democrat, then make no mistake, this wouldn't be an issue and wouldn't have happened.

Answer the question, if you please. Do you support the new blacklisting based on what we see now?
I don't think there's any basis for you to compare what he did and what she did. She got fired behind closed doors, and so much speculation of sensible conduct on such a partisan basis is kind of asinine.

She's claiming it's a big liberal bias, and there's plenty of room for her to tell her story. Though look at the reception. Who's biting?
..What mirror universe?
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