Charlottesville and Antifa

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Admiral X wrote:Even though that guy started it, I still think the guys that beamed him in the head with a pipe should've gotten a more severe charge than what they got. Did that antifa who hit Pepsi guy in the head with a bike lock get some weak sauce charge like "unlawful wounding?"
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Eric Clanton, a former East Bay community college philosophy professor linked online to violent assaults with a metal bike lock during a “free speech” rally in Berkeley on April 15, was charged Friday afternoon with four counts of assault with a deadly weapon, a felony, with the special allegation of causing great bodily injury to Sean Stiles. Additionally, the charges include the misdemeanor offense of wearing a mask to evade identification. If convicted, Clanton could be sent to prison.
He's facing serious time. Deandre Harris is not. Even assuming he doesn't plea, which he probably will, he's facing fines/community service.
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I'm talking the guys that hit him in the head with a pipe. I think that Eric Clanton guy has been charged appropriately, but it stuns me that this current case only has "unlawful wounding" listed for any of the people involved.
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Uh...the guys that hit HIM in the head are charged with malicious wounding. That's not the same thing at all. Unlawful wounding is basically assault...given the extenuating circumstances, he'll get a slap on the wrist. Malicious wounding is a serious felony. Those guys are looking at years of time if things go poorly for them.
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Really? Guess it's the first time I've seen that as a charge. Around where I'm from it's pretty much just all different levels of assault - punching someone in the face (or just taking a swing at them) is "simple assault," really beating the crap out of them is "aggravated assault," using a weapon is "aggravated assault with a deadly weapon," etc. "Wounding" sounds like a lame slap on the wrist kind of charge.
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Yeah, that stuff will vary from state to state, and Virginia really likes the term 'wounding' for some reason. Basically 'unlawful wounding' is kinda-sorta assault, and 'malicious wounding' is aggravated assault where you really beat the crap out of them.

But underneath the legal lingo, the basic situation is that the guys who beat down Deandre Harris in the parking garage are facing a much, MUCH more serious charge than he is for taking a swing at the guy with the flag....which all seems reasonable to me.
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Same here.
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The wheels of justice grind slow sometimes, but they keep grinding.
Federal authorities in Virginia have arrested several individuals in connection with the violence in Charlottesville in August 2017, a U.S. official said Tuesday.

Four men were slapped with federal conspiracy charges related to the rallies on Aug. 11 and 12: Cole Evan White, Benjamin Drake Daley, Michael Paul Miselis and Thomas Walter Gillen, each identified as marchers in either the torch rally on campus or the deadly gathering at the park the next day.

The federal rioting charges, filed on Aug. 27, 2018, were unsealed on Tuesday. A criminal complaint filed against the four defendants features images of them engaged in violence during “Unite the Right” weekend. According to an affidavit unsealed Tuesday, the four men were “among the most violent individuals present in Charlottesville” last year.

All four defendants are from California and are part of a violent white supremacist group called the Rise Above Movement (RAM), as first documented by ProPublica.
RAM is somewhat infamous already, and I doubt anyone is going to shed any tears over these guys.
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Nope. Be nice to see some of these antifa types get charged though. Not like there isn't plenty of video evidence of them starting violence themselves.
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Admiral X wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:36 pm Nope. Be nice to see some of these antifa types get charged though.
They go down too.
A former East Bay college philosophy professor who was charged with four counts of felony assault with a deadly weapon, causing great bodily injury, has taken a deal resulting in three years of probation for an attack at a Berkeley protest last year, court records reveal.

Eric Clanton had been linked by police to violent assaults with a metal bike lock during a “free speech” rally in Berkeley on April 15, 2017. Before his arrest, Clanton had been “outed” online, on the website 4chan, as someone who used a bike lock to strike a man in the head. The assault was captured in a video clip (below) that drew widespread attention and anger after it was posted on YouTube.
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Good to see violent thugs get charged.
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