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Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:04 pm
So your argument boil down to "How dare this minority group try to get some attention, we need to have nothing more than white cis hetero and nothing else ever.' Even if it is niche isn't diversity the spice of life, or are you the bland man in Earth.
It boils down to corporate liars trying to claim they're marketing outside the niche and insulting anyone outside that niche. They wanna market to a minority group, go ahead, knock themselves out, but then they have to insult anyone who doesn't like it.
Corporate social justice is dishonest nomenclature. It's just deflection to get people not to look too closely at their bank accounts.
Or maybe with more people able to speak people can now talk with friends to back them up instead of whoever their stuck with in real life.
How does name-dropping identity politics make a difference?
"I'm a black person!" "I'm a lesbian!" "I'm blind!" Yeah, that's cringe AF. Look at something such as DS9, which while never a ratings juggernaut, still nevertheless is highly regarded even today.
Now look at something recent and more topical like Batwoman. Yeah, the ratings are in the toilet and there's no way that can hold up forever. It's gonna have no cultural staying power.
How do you play a color? How do you play an identity? How do you write that way? Bottom line is you can't.
Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:04 pm
So your argument boil down to "How dare this minority group try to get some attention, we need to have nothing more than white cis hetero and nothing else ever.' Even if it is niche isn't diversity the spice of life, or are you the bland man in Earth.
It boils down to corporate liars trying to claim they're marketing outside the niche and insulting anyone outside that niche. They wanna market to a minority group, go ahead, knock themselves out, but then they have to insult anyone who doesn't like it.
Corporate social justice is dishonest nomenclature. It's just deflection to get people not to look too closely at their bank accounts.
Or maybe with more people able to speak people can now talk with friends to back them up instead of whoever their stuck with in real life.
How does name-dropping identity politics make a difference?
"I'm a black person!" "I'm a lesbian!" "I'm blind!" Yeah, that's cringe AF. Look at something such as DS9, which while never a ratings juggernaut, still nevertheless is highly regarded even today.
Now look at something recent and more topical like Batwoman. Yeah, the ratings are in the toilet and there's no way that can hold up forever. It's gonna have no cultural staying power.
How do you play a color? How do you play an identity? How do you write that way? Bottom line is you can't.
Look at black panther and how well that did, and how safe voyager was and how most people seems to disregard it for that fact. Aknowlenging them is cultural relivent.
Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:04 pm
So your argument boil down to "How dare this minority group try to get some attention, we need to have nothing more than white cis hetero and nothing else ever.' Even if it is niche isn't diversity the spice of life, or are you the bland man in Earth.
It boils down to corporate liars trying to claim they're marketing outside the niche and insulting anyone outside that niche. They wanna market to a minority group, go ahead, knock themselves out, but then they have to insult anyone who doesn't like it.
Corporate social justice is dishonest nomenclature. It's just deflection to get people not to look too closely at their bank accounts.
Or maybe with more people able to speak people can now talk with friends to back them up instead of whoever their stuck with in real life.
How does name-dropping identity politics make a difference?
"I'm a black person!" "I'm a lesbian!" "I'm blind!" Yeah, that's cringe AF. Look at something such as DS9, which while never a ratings juggernaut, still nevertheless is highly regarded even today.
Now look at something recent and more topical like Batwoman. Yeah, the ratings are in the toilet and there's no way that can hold up forever. It's gonna have no cultural staying power.
How do you play a color? How do you play an identity? How do you write that way? Bottom line is you can't.
In terms of Truth in Television, I'm bisexual and I rarely shut up about it. We also like to make Bi puns.
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
— Un Lun Dun, China Mieville
Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:04 pm
So your argument boil down to "How dare this minority group try to get some attention, we need to have nothing more than white cis hetero and nothing else ever.' Even if it is niche isn't diversity the spice of life, or are you the bland man in Earth.
It boils down to corporate liars trying to claim they're marketing outside the niche and insulting anyone outside that niche. They wanna market to a minority group, go ahead, knock themselves out, but then they have to insult anyone who doesn't like it.
Corporate social justice is dishonest nomenclature. It's just deflection to get people not to look too closely at their bank accounts.
Or maybe with more people able to speak people can now talk with friends to back them up instead of whoever their stuck with in real life.
How does name-dropping identity politics make a difference?
"I'm a black person!" "I'm a lesbian!" "I'm blind!" Yeah, that's cringe AF. Look at something such as DS9, which while never a ratings juggernaut, still nevertheless is highly regarded even today.
Now look at something recent and more topical like Batwoman. Yeah, the ratings are in the toilet and there's no way that can hold up forever. It's gonna have no cultural staying power.
How do you play a color? How do you play an identity? How do you write that way? Bottom line is you can't.
clearspira wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 7:02 pm
You make a good impassioned speech. And yet, I don't have a daughter, but i have a young niece. And I wouldn't want her anywhere near a fully equipped and fully grown man in a toilet or a changing room. The latter especially; and you can call me every slur you want, i'm not letting anyone with his dick out near her no matter what the excuse is because I do not know whether he is legitimately a transperson or some fucking pervert claiming to be one. Why do you think we even have separate toilets and changing rooms for anyway?
Most people in Britain back Boris Johnson on this. How do I know this? Because we had a local election last week and Boris increased his majority in the House of Commons whilst Labour - the party of identity politics - is now so far down in the polls many are wondering if it is even possible to get the Tories out of power this decade.
I'll say this too: despite what you may think of me or what it may sound like, I feel sorry for transpeople. To look into a mirror and see a stranger stare back at you is... wow. It must be horrific. I cannot imagine it and I glad I do not have to go through it. But. You. Are. Not. The. Only. Ones. With. Problems. Cis-women have problems too; most of which tend to originate from piece of shit men who should have had their dicks cut off before puberty before they learned to use them as weapons. If it wasn't for them then maybe this would not be such a controversial issue.
Pardon me for intruding here. But I think I want to vote for separate lavatories. But not to protect your niece. To protect men from automatically being accused of being rapists for being male.
They want a damn law about bathrooms? Fine all establishments need three lavatories. a male, a female, and a don't give a damn bathroom. There all parties addressed.
Now a single dad can take his daughter to pee without pointed fingers and little girls old enough to not need an escort are not around men.
clearspira wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 7:02 pm
You make a good impassioned speech. And yet, I don't have a daughter, but i have a young niece. And I wouldn't want her anywhere near a fully equipped and fully grown man in a toilet or a changing room. The latter especially; and you can call me every slur you want, i'm not letting anyone with his dick out near her no matter what the excuse is because I do not know whether he is legitimately a transperson or some fucking pervert claiming to be one. Why do you think we even have separate toilets and changing rooms for anyway?
Most people in Britain back Boris Johnson on this. How do I know this? Because we had a local election last week and Boris increased his majority in the House of Commons whilst Labour - the party of identity politics - is now so far down in the polls many are wondering if it is even possible to get the Tories out of power this decade.
I'll say this too: despite what you may think of me or what it may sound like, I feel sorry for transpeople. To look into a mirror and see a stranger stare back at you is... wow. It must be horrific. I cannot imagine it and I glad I do not have to go through it. But. You. Are. Not. The. Only. Ones. With. Problems. Cis-women have problems too; most of which tend to originate from piece of shit men who should have had their dicks cut off before puberty before they learned to use them as weapons. If it wasn't for them then maybe this would not be such a controversial issue.
Pardon me for intruding here. But I think I want to vote for separate lavatories. But not to protect your niece. To protect men from automatically being accused of being rapists for being male.
They want a damn law about bathrooms? Fine all establishments need three lavatories. a male, a female, and a don't give a damn bathroom. There all parties addressed.
Now a single dad can take his daughter to pee without pointed fingers and little girls old enough to not need an escort are not around men.
Maybe that can be done in new or newer buildings but that would be hard in older buildings. Some buildings are just not set up for three seperate bathrooms. One sex will lose a bathroom for example.
Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:39 pm
Hey clearspira, you said that trans count as only 1 percent of the population correct?
From wiki: A 2017 Gallup poll concluded that 4.5% of adult Americans identified as LGBT with 5.1% of women identifying as LGBT, compared with 3.9% of men. A different survey in 2016, from the Williams Institute, estimated that 0.6% of U.S. adults identify as transgender. Studies from several nations, including the U.S., conducted at varying time periods, have produced a statistical range of 1.2 to 6.8 percent of the adult population identifying as LGBT.
The amount of trans people via every objective measurement I can get hold of paints an extremely small picture. Most men are very happy with having a penis and most women are very happy with having a vagina, the problems come from the artificial box put around the genders that says what you can and cannot do.
clearspira wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 7:02 pm
You make a good impassioned speech. And yet, I don't have a daughter, but i have a young niece. And I wouldn't want her anywhere near a fully equipped and fully grown man in a toilet or a changing room. The latter especially; and you can call me every slur you want, i'm not letting anyone with his dick out near her no matter what the excuse is because I do not know whether he is legitimately a transperson or some fucking pervert claiming to be one. Why do you think we even have separate toilets and changing rooms for anyway?
Most people in Britain back Boris Johnson on this. How do I know this? Because we had a local election last week and Boris increased his majority in the House of Commons whilst Labour - the party of identity politics - is now so far down in the polls many are wondering if it is even possible to get the Tories out of power this decade.
I'll say this too: despite what you may think of me or what it may sound like, I feel sorry for transpeople. To look into a mirror and see a stranger stare back at you is... wow. It must be horrific. I cannot imagine it and I glad I do not have to go through it. But. You. Are. Not. The. Only. Ones. With. Problems. Cis-women have problems too; most of which tend to originate from piece of shit men who should have had their dicks cut off before puberty before they learned to use them as weapons. If it wasn't for them then maybe this would not be such a controversial issue.
Pardon me for intruding here. But I think I want to vote for separate lavatories. But not to protect your niece. To protect men from automatically being accused of being rapists for being male.
They want a damn law about bathrooms? Fine all establishments need three lavatories. a male, a female, and a don't give a damn bathroom. There all parties addressed.
Now a single dad can take his daughter to pee without pointed fingers and little girls old enough to not need an escort are not around men.
Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:04 pm
So your argument boil down to "How dare this minority group try to get some attention, we need to have nothing more than white cis hetero and nothing else ever.' Even if it is niche isn't diversity the spice of life, or are you the bland man in Earth.
It boils down to corporate liars trying to claim they're marketing outside the niche and insulting anyone outside that niche. They wanna market to a minority group, go ahead, knock themselves out, but then they have to insult anyone who doesn't like it.
Corporate social justice is dishonest nomenclature. It's just deflection to get people not to look too closely at their bank accounts.
Or maybe with more people able to speak people can now talk with friends to back them up instead of whoever their stuck with in real life.
How does name-dropping identity politics make a difference?
"I'm a black person!" "I'm a lesbian!" "I'm blind!" Yeah, that's cringe AF. Look at something such as DS9, which while never a ratings juggernaut, still nevertheless is highly regarded even today.
Now look at something recent and more topical like Batwoman. Yeah, the ratings are in the toilet and there's no way that can hold up forever. It's gonna have no cultural staying power.
How do you play a color? How do you play an identity? How do you write that way? Bottom line is you can't.
Have you ever had a mate who has just has a kid and now they cannot stop talking about their baby every single time you meet them no matter how uninterested a face you put on? That is what following many LGBT creators on Youtube and Twitter is like nowadays. What many people mistake for bigotry is often more a case of just being fucking bored with monotonous content.
And y'know what compounds the boredom? The fact that there is nothing special whatsoever anymore with being a strong independent woman, or a black guy, or gay. There are thousands of shows and books with these as leads now and anyone who thinks otherwise has not explored Netflix or Amazon enough. Saying ''Wow! Look at me! I'm a gay lead!!'' may have got you somewhere back in 2010, but now you are sand on a beach. Which btw is what true equality looks like - welcome to the world of what its like to be a cisgender. We can't make money on our identity either.
