UK passing staunch gender bathroom law
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Oh worm?
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Didn't you say you've worked as a county court judge?Captain Crimson wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 2:13 am Who am I to judge? I'm just an opinionated Southern redneck whose complexion resembles Jim Gaffigan and will never have to answer to anyone. I like being a nobody.
..What mirror universe?
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Nah, I work as the Divine Treasurer's bookkeeper.
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I don't see what sexy ads have to do with anything unless you are suggesting we need more buff, short-haired women or men wearing skirts on our ads. Baby clothes? Again, not sure. Pink for girls blue for boys I guess? Never understood why that's a problem. And gender reveal parties I would imagine mostly go off without destruction. You cannot set a trend based on idiots.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:20 amSee, that's what straight people do, a lot. You don't notice it because straightness and cisness are ubiquitous and normalized. Fish don't notice they're in water.clearspira wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:43 pmHave you ever had a mate who has just has a kid and now they cannot stop talking about their baby every single time you meet them no matter how uninterested a face you put on? That is what following many LGBT creators on Youtube and Twitter is like nowadays. What many people mistake for bigotry is often more a case of just being fucking bored with monotonous content.Captain Crimson wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:46 pmHow does name-dropping identity politics make a difference?Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:37 pmOr maybe with more people able to speak people can now talk with friends to back them up instead of whoever their stuck with in real life.Captain Crimson wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:30 pmIt boils down to corporate liars trying to claim they're marketing outside the niche and insulting anyone outside that niche. They wanna market to a minority group, go ahead, knock themselves out, but then they have to insult anyone who doesn't like it.Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:04 pm So your argument boil down to "How dare this minority group try to get some attention, we need to have nothing more than white cis hetero and nothing else ever.' Even if it is niche isn't diversity the spice of life, or are you the bland man in Earth.
Corporate social justice is dishonest nomenclature. It's just deflection to get people not to look too closely at their bank accounts.
"I'm a black person!" "I'm a lesbian!" "I'm blind!" Yeah, that's cringe AF. Look at something such as DS9, which while never a ratings juggernaut, still nevertheless is highly regarded even today.
Now look at something recent and more topical like Batwoman. Yeah, the ratings are in the toilet and there's no way that can hold up forever. It's gonna have no cultural staying power.
How do you play a color? How do you play an identity? How do you write that way? Bottom line is you can't.
Have you seen baby clothes? Have you seen sexy ads for anything? Have you seen the death and destruction wrought by gender reveal parties?
You know how you can tell a vegan from a meat-eater? Doesn't matter, because sooner or later, they'll tell you. LGBT content is often the same. I'll tell you this much, its often kind of weird being a cisgendered, hetero white guy in today's world. We don't have a flag to wave, or a nice handsign to flash, or people getting down on their knees for us, or a parade that closes a city centre, or a dedicated week that everyone cares about; we just... get on with our lives, whilst everyone else claims that we are somehow the ones who are in your face.
Got to admit though, I am often sort of envious of LGBT, blacks and women. Wish I had a card that I could blame all of my problems on. Youtube channel not flourishing? Its not the content that's shit, its being ''buried by the algorithm''. Didn't get that promotion? Its not that i'm not good enough, its because of my vagina. Book not selling? its not that it reads like toilet paper, its because of the ''hetero-patriarchy''. Love it. A lot of people in these ''marginalised'' groups would actually not enjoy equality I feel which is why it is always supposedly so out of reach.
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Scientifically, the definition of female is the sex the lays the eggs and the definition of male is the sex with the sperm. That is why we assign as such. And that is true across all species. So no, science isn't sufficiently advanced to altar biological sex at this point as I cannot yet go out and have a baby any more than a biological woman could knock someone up. All we really can do right now is pump ourselves full of hormones.CmdrKing wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 9:48 pm"Assigned" is apt I think. The doctor is glancing at a child's genitals and making a series of assumptions about how their reproductive function will develop in ~12 years. It works out a high percentage of the time, but given how determinative society treats that set of assumptions for every aspect of someone's life across an entire lifetime, conveying that there's ultimately an arbitrary and unscientific rational for this act is necessary when discussing the percentage of people for whom they were wrong.Mickey_Rat15 wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 9:06 pm
Sex is not "assigned" at birth. Sex is observed at birth and noted. One may make a caveat that sex could be said to be assigned for someone with sex chromosome disorders, but that is not what that odd use of "assigned" really refers to, as one's sex is an objective condition. Saying that sex is "assigned" implies that it is an arbitrary decision like which classroom one is put in in grade school.
(This also ignores of course that science is sufficiently advanced to alter biological sex at this point.)
One day, I can see it happening. Probably when we figure out womb and penis/testicle transplants without rejection. Another thing to put on the organ donor register.
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By that definition no human is female as no human lays eggs.clearspira wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 6:43 am Scientifically, the definition of female is the sex the lays the eggs and the definition of male is the sex with the sperm. That is why we assign as such. And that is true across all species. So no, science isn't sufficiently advanced to altar biological sex at this point as I cannot yet go out and have a baby any more than a biological woman could knock someone up. All we really can do right now is pump ourselves full of hormones.
One day, I can see it happening. Probably when we figure out womb and penis/testicle transplants without rejection. Another thing to put on the organ donor register.
You do realize that you can just get on with your lives proves Fuzzy's point, right? Because the rest of us would love to be able to get on with our lives without fear.clearspira wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 6:31 am You know how you can tell a vegan from a meat-eater? Doesn't matter, because sooner or later, they'll tell you. LGBT content is often the same. I'll tell you this much, its often kind of weird being a cisgendered, hetero white guy in today's world. We don't have a flag to wave, or a nice handsign to flash, or people getting down on their knees for us, or a parade that closes a city centre, or a dedicated week that everyone cares about; we just... get on with our lives, whilst everyone else claims that we are somehow the ones who are in your face.
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Infact with only a couple exception no mammal lay eggs.Draco Dracul wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 7:23 amBy that definition no human is female as no human lays eggs.clearspira wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 6:43 am Scientifically, the definition of female is the sex the lays the eggs and the definition of male is the sex with the sperm. That is why we assign as such. And that is true across all species. So no, science isn't sufficiently advanced to altar biological sex at this point as I cannot yet go out and have a baby any more than a biological woman could knock someone up. All we really can do right now is pump ourselves full of hormones.
One day, I can see it happening. Probably when we figure out womb and penis/testicle transplants without rejection. Another thing to put on the organ donor register.
You do realize that you can just get on with your lives proves Fuzzy's point, right? Because the rest of us would love to be able to get on with our lives without fear.clearspira wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 6:31 am You know how you can tell a vegan from a meat-eater? Doesn't matter, because sooner or later, they'll tell you. LGBT content is often the same. I'll tell you this much, its often kind of weird being a cisgendered, hetero white guy in today's world. We don't have a flag to wave, or a nice handsign to flash, or people getting down on their knees for us, or a parade that closes a city centre, or a dedicated week that everyone cares about; we just... get on with our lives, whilst everyone else claims that we are somehow the ones who are in your face.
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Can't argue there.
Re: UK passing staunch gender bathroom law
Well that is the grail of transplants. If we get to the point where a transplanted kidney is just like the rest of the body, then that's a great thing. BTW, once a organ is removed from the body, the body will react the same way just like if it was from another person if it was put back.clearspira wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 6:43 amScientifically, the definition of female is the sex the lays the eggs and the definition of male is the sex with the sperm. That is why we assign as such. And that is true across all species. So no, science isn't sufficiently advanced to altar biological sex at this point as I cannot yet go out and have a baby any more than a biological woman could knock someone up. All we really can do right now is pump ourselves full of hormones.CmdrKing wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 9:48 pm"Assigned" is apt I think. The doctor is glancing at a child's genitals and making a series of assumptions about how their reproductive function will develop in ~12 years. It works out a high percentage of the time, but given how determinative society treats that set of assumptions for every aspect of someone's life across an entire lifetime, conveying that there's ultimately an arbitrary and unscientific rational for this act is necessary when discussing the percentage of people for whom they were wrong.Mickey_Rat15 wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 9:06 pm
Sex is not "assigned" at birth. Sex is observed at birth and noted. One may make a caveat that sex could be said to be assigned for someone with sex chromosome disorders, but that is not what that odd use of "assigned" really refers to, as one's sex is an objective condition. Saying that sex is "assigned" implies that it is an arbitrary decision like which classroom one is put in in grade school.
(This also ignores of course that science is sufficiently advanced to alter biological sex at this point.)
One day, I can see it happening. Probably when we figure out womb and penis/testicle transplants without rejection. Another thing to put on the organ donor register.
Though that would be the first step for the trans community. To have fully working genitals. The next step is figuring out how to make the person genetically female or male.
I got nothing to say here.
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There's no ageneda to change chromosomes.
"Transexual" is a functioning term under the transgender umbrella and correlates directly to any surgical operation undertaken for transgender purposes.
"Transexual" is a functioning term under the transgender umbrella and correlates directly to any surgical operation undertaken for transgender purposes.
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What about trans people who don't go through the security or can't.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:06 am There's no ageneda to change chromosomes.
"Transexual" is a functioning term under the transgender umbrella and correlates directly to any surgical operation undertaken for transgender purposes.