How Will Mass Effect's Story Continue?

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How Will Mass Effect's Story Continue?

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I still hate the ending of Mass Effect 3. I hate it so much that I wrote up an entire story that is blue print for a remake of ME3 that GREATLY alters the ending, the key difference being, YOUR CHOICES THROUGHOUT THE TRILOGY CHANGE HOW THE GAME ENDS!!! You know, what BioWare PROMISED!?!? This is unlikely never going to happen unless I somehow get control of BioWare and am allowed to make this silly story of mine a reality especially since BioWare IS continuing the story of the Original Trilogy.

Thus the question is raised, how will BioWare continue the story of the Mass Effect Trilogy? Because, that's what their selling this as the Trailer for the game ends on the tagline of Mass Effect Will CONTINUE. This isn't a reboot this is a full on sequel to one of the most well known Trilogies all all time and even with the ending of ME3 this Trilogy is still loved to the point that a remaster of said Trilogy was released to HUGE critical and financial success with critics and fans more or less praising the remaster.

On top of that the Trilogy still has ME's unique design of carrying over choices from one game to another which will no doubt come in handy for the next game. So, how will that work?

As I understand it, (never tested it myself) in ME2 if Shepard dies the save file will not carry over into ME3. The only way to continue the story is if Shepard survives the Suicide Mission in ME2. I bring this up because of what we see in the trailer for the next game. Liara is alive and shows no signs that she has been is a techno... bio... thing... and is perfectly normal. We see dead Reapers, a destroyed Mass Relay and a possible hint that Shepard is alive.

All these point to one ending, the Destroy Ending or the Red Explosion ending as that is the only ending where the Reapers are destroyed and Shepard can survive while the other four have them go on because F player choices. :roll:

However, is this the only outcome, are we doomed to be forced to kill EDI and the Geth rending both their arcs pointless (assuming BioWare doesn't just retcon that and allow both to Survive (and this is the RARE case of me being okay with a massive retcon like that)) OR will BioWare try to make all 4 endings canon.

The endings of ME3 boil down to the following, Kill EDI and the Geth (thus meaning you agree with the Reapers and that A.I.'s can't be trusted despite all we see) merge with the Reapers hive mind and prove the Illusive Man and Saren right, force everyone to become Techno and Biologically fused and thus complete the Reapers plans or get everyone killed. No matter what, you are always proven wrong and the villains are always proven right... I Really HATE ME3's endings! :evil:

Back on topic, of these two I'd say that the first one, making only one ending canon, is the most likely given how it will actually cost less and of the 3 Destroy is the least controversial. Yes the one where you intentionally kill friends and allies is the one that annoys players the least THAT'S how bad the endings are.

Trying to make a story to each ending would be to complicated if BioWare has any plans to move the series forward after this and again, the idea is Mass Effect will continue and, at the time of this writing, BioWare is building this game up as a continuation of the story not the finally. A Sequel to 4 endings all of which are fairly different would be hard enough making this a possible jumping off point for a continuing story... No, it would be to complicated and more importantly, from a studios point of view anyway, to expressive.

Still, I could be wrong and it's possible that the current generation of gaming has gotten to the point that making a series going in 4 different directions on one game is something that is completely possible. However, nothing I've seen of any current games on the next gen has convinced me that such a game is possible. Even Returnal is fairly basic and it just resets the map every time you exit the game or die and overall game stays the same in the end with the story never really changing.

Regardless of what comes next or my own personal feelings for ME3's endings I do with BioWare the best of Luck and hope the next game is, at the very least, not another Mass Effect: Andromeda.

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While I get the endings were not good, I never understood people being upset Shep doesn't survive. In those cases, Shep gives his/her life saving the galaxy. What more could you want? And the obsession with a golden ending seems childish. You're fighting against impossible odds to prevent the xenocide of several species against an enemy that's vastly superior to your own.

I think the only ways forward are to set it so far into the future that the trilogy doesn't matter, some shitty prequel thing, or do a sequel to Andromeda.

The Bioware of 2021 isn't the Bioware of 15 years ago. It's an entity owned by EA. My expectations are quite low.
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They will never do this and it's probably for the best but if they were going to do a prequel, I'd want one on the Rachni Wars rather than something humanity did. I mean, this was a galaxy spanning war that happened because of reckless exploring and pushed the citadel races to the brink. There is so much potential for many great stories during that time, but because there aren't any humans during it there is no way in hell Bioware or EA would make it.
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Kinky Vorlon wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 2:28 pm While I get the endings were not good, I never understood people being upset Shep doesn't survive. In those cases, Shep gives his/her life saving the galaxy. What more could you want? And the obsession with a golden ending seems childish. You're fighting against impossible odds to prevent the xenocide of several species against an enemy that's vastly superior to your own.
It's not the fact that Shepard dies that bothers most fans, it's HOW they died that bothers most fans.

In my ME3 Rewrite I did write an ending where Shepard dies depending on the choices you make while in many other endings it's possible for Shepard to live, again, depending on the choices you make. In the Original ME3 you die, not because of your choices but because BioWare said so and you only live because the creators say so.

To go over to Witcher 3 in that ending you have 3 VERY different outcomes depending on your choices which are as follows.

Ciri becomes a Witcher, Ciri becomes Empress and Ciri dies.. Of these three endings the first two have both pros and cons as in one your daughter lives and becomes a Witcher or she becomes Empress and leaves and goes on to become a good ruler which is good for everyone.

This is not the case for ME3 as you're choices have no real impact on the ending while the ending of W3 is all about how you treated Ciri and her survival depends on how you treat her. ME3 brings in a little blue Troll, tells you your choices don't matter and now you must either kill all synthetic life, take control of the Reapers, complete the Reapers true plan or get everyone killed. There is no way around this, you do these 4 things and in 3 of them you die and only live if you have enough positive mojo to survive a space station blowing up.

I agree that my expectations for the next Mass Effect game but I'm willing to give them one last shot. For all my issues with the ending revisiting the ME Trilogy with the Legendary Edition has been really fun and I hope BioWare continues with remastering and remaking their older games to help show why we loved their games and use the past to help make a better future.
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