Or you know this was the days when looking stuff up wasn't as trivial as today. "Is Minsk in Russia" meant looking at a map (and Russia is big) or opening an encyclopedia, not a three second google.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 2:00 pmSo they just wrote/shot it beforehand and left it in? lolDargaron wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:42 amThe episode came out in 1990 according to IMDB. Belarus had just become independent a few months beforehand.Beelzquill wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:27 am
Also, wasn't Minsk (the city Worf grew up in) in Belarus, not Russia? Then again Belarus means something like "white Russians" so saying he's going to live in a Russian winter is probably still accurate.
TNG - Reunion
Re: TNG - Reunion
Re: TNG - Reunion
Just because modern nations no longer exist as nations doesn't mean they don't continue to exist as geographical subdivisions. Like, Iowa isn't its own nation even now, but that doesn't stop Kirk from telling someone he's not from space, "I'm from Iowa; I work in space."clearspira wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:22 am I mean, yeah, that is true. But Star Trek is really inconsistent on this. I think originally, ''United Earth'' was meant to be more like the EU in that you have a group of countries who have a joint government AND a sovereign government at the same time. That's why Kirk can wax lyrical about the US Constitution or Picard can brag about French history. By DS9 ''Homefront'' and ST:First Contact it is cemented that no, nation states absolutely no longer exist. We have the Federation President and that is that.
This has two knock on effects:
1) Being born in North America is no longer the same thing as being born in the US, any more than being born in Italy makes you a Roman or being born in Greece makes you a Spartan warrior. It makes people like Kirk look an absolute nostalgic dinosaur.
2) It makes Chuck's Parody Fascist Federation where all free thought is stamped out far closer to being the reality then was ever intended. There is one way of doing things. There is one set of laws. There is one set of agreed upon morals. And don't think about leaving and setting up home somewhere else or we will get military on your ass if you get in the way (maquis). This world is ripe for a Palpatine to come along it really is.
- BridgeConsoleMasher
- Overlord
- Posts: 11637
- Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:18 am
Re: TNG - Reunion
Yeah but I mean for like what probably is the most topical franchise there could be about the Cold War at the time...TGLS wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:05 pmOr you know this was the days when looking stuff up wasn't as trivial as today. "Is Minsk in Russia" meant looking at a map (and Russia is big) or opening an encyclopedia, not a three second google.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 2:00 pmSo they just wrote/shot it beforehand and left it in? lolDargaron wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:42 amThe episode came out in 1990 according to IMDB. Belarus had just become independent a few months beforehand.Beelzquill wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:27 am
Also, wasn't Minsk (the city Worf grew up in) in Belarus, not Russia? Then again Belarus means something like "white Russians" so saying he's going to live in a Russian winter is probably still accurate.
..What mirror universe?
- CareerKnight
- Officer
- Posts: 186
- Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:49 pm
Re: TNG - Reunion
Arming swords (longswords are completely different than what d&d labels them, they are actually closer to what d&d calls bastard swords) became rapiers and they were used on the battlefield to kill armored opponents by slipping through the gaps which is why its focused completely on thrusting.RobbyB1982 wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:34 am It's similar to the way the longsword morphed into a fencing rapier. The rapier can absolutely be deadly in a one on one honor duel, but you weren't going to take it into a battlefield to try and kill armored men with. Similarly, we never see batleths fighting any other handheld weapons... just other batleths.
The bat'leth is not a well designed weapon by any metric, it combines the weight of a two-handed weapon with the reach of a one-handed weapon and topped off with poor balanced. It makes far more sense as a strictly ceremonial weapon as those don't need to be very practical.
- clearspira
- Overlord
- Posts: 5680
- Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:51 pm
Re: TNG - Reunion
Madner Kami wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:56 pmBrExiter spotted.clearspira wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:22 am2) [...] There is one way of doing things. There is one set of laws. There is one set of agreed upon morals. And don't think about leaving and setting up home somewhere else or we will get military on your ass if you get in the way (maquis). This world is ripe for a Palpatine to come along it really is.
Re: TNG - Reunion
So... who poisoned the Chancellor?
I know we're meant to assume it was Duras, but... Was it Sela?
After all, this episode takes place after Yesterday's Enterprise and we shifted timelines.
I know we're meant to assume it was Duras, but... Was it Sela?
After all, this episode takes place after Yesterday's Enterprise and we shifted timelines.
- CharlesPhipps
- Captain
- Posts: 4957
- Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:06 pm
Re: TNG - Reunion
They never answered it but according to Word of God, it was Duras.
Gowron would have probably killed him too but would have done it in a fight because, unlike Duras, Gowron wasn't a coward.
-
- Officer
- Posts: 79
- Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:18 pm
Re: TNG - Reunion
Chairman Kaboom? You know, that actually sounds like a pretty good nom de plume. Someone should use that.
As for the bat'leth, it kinda reminds me of an inverted cicada wing sword, an obscure weapon used in wushu. As seen here: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com ... SX425_.jpg
It's not a weapon that gets a lot of use in demonstrations and I remember seeing it for the first time in a Shaw Brothers film, though I don't remember the title.
As for the bat'leth, it kinda reminds me of an inverted cicada wing sword, an obscure weapon used in wushu. As seen here: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com ... SX425_.jpg
It's not a weapon that gets a lot of use in demonstrations and I remember seeing it for the first time in a Shaw Brothers film, though I don't remember the title.
- CrypticMirror
- Captain
- Posts: 926
- Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:15 am
Re: TNG - Reunion
For all his other insecurities, Gowron did like a good fight.CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:20 pmThey never answered it but according to Word of God, it was Duras.
Gowron would have probably killed him too but would have done it in a fight because, unlike Duras, Gowron wasn't a coward.
- Wargriffin
- Captain
- Posts: 579
- Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:17 pm
Re: TNG - Reunion
I mean The clues pretty much spell out its Duras and Thats been the Writers stance that they thought they had laid the evidence out so well that they didn't need a formal IT WAS DURAS moment granted they say that cause they totally forget to do it cause they got more buzzed about setting up that death match
Like the bomb was surgically implanted into one of his guys is a BIG tell
and Duras being a prominent member on the council would give him access to Chancellor easier then Gowron
Its just one of those thing that's never actually said.
This is a good Worf Episode,
Look I get Picard don't like the idea that Worf ran off and killed a guy that's between you and your stance of killing someone...Didn't Picard basically leave a room full of people begging for help back in the Hunted knowing full well that the super soldiers were gonna basically Slaughter them? Or does that not count cause the bloods not directly on his hands or he can't shuck responsibility.
DAMMIT WORF IF YOUR GONNA KILL SOMEONE ALWAYS RETAIN PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. NOW THEY CAN TRACE THIS BACK TO ME
Like the bomb was surgically implanted into one of his guys is a BIG tell
and Duras being a prominent member on the council would give him access to Chancellor easier then Gowron
Its just one of those thing that's never actually said.
This is a good Worf Episode,
Look I get Picard don't like the idea that Worf ran off and killed a guy that's between you and your stance of killing someone...Didn't Picard basically leave a room full of people begging for help back in the Hunted knowing full well that the super soldiers were gonna basically Slaughter them? Or does that not count cause the bloods not directly on his hands or he can't shuck responsibility.
DAMMIT WORF IF YOUR GONNA KILL SOMEONE ALWAYS RETAIN PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. NOW THEY CAN TRACE THIS BACK TO ME
"When you rule by fear, your greatest weakness is the one who's no longer afraid."