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So here's my question for the bastion of great minds here: If you are white, and you're on this site so you're probably Progressive... does it ever occur to you that the Right Wing might be correct? That maybe, just maybe, "your truth" is just a misunderstanding/hallucination/delusion? How often do you question your sources, your reality? Because if 62% of white Conservatives were mentally ill, I'd certainly question myself more.
When I was a boy I used to be taught that the races should be equal, everyone should be treated equal under the law, that justice is something that should be merciful yet harsh, that democracy was the greatest system in the world, that torture was wrong, and that it was right to be proud to be an American because we didn't silence dissent but engaged in healthy debate to the betterment of all citizens.
Draco Dracul wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:08 am
It makes sense, capitalism is incredibly harsh to the mentally ill. Also I find it funny that you're using a rag that thinks liberals are on the left.
I think it uses the term "Liberal" colloquially, in the American sense, to be interchangable with "Progressive"
Media has a Left-Wing bias
Reality has a Right-Wing one
So here's my question for the bastion of great minds here: If you are white, and you're on this site so you're probably Progressive... does it ever occur to you that the Right Wing might be correct? That maybe, just maybe, "your truth" is just a misunderstanding/hallucination/delusion? How often do you question your sources, your reality? Because if 62% of white Conservatives were mentally ill, I'd certainly question myself more.
When I was a boy I used to be taught that the races should be equal, everyone should be treated equal under the law, that justice is something that should be merciful yet harsh, that democracy was the greatest system in the world, that torture was wrong, and that it was right to be proud to be an American because we didn't silence dissent but engaged in healthy debate to the betterment of all citizens.
My political party for my first 25 years?
Republican.
I was raised similarly, and went from Dem to Libertarian to Republican over my 38 years.
Media has a Left-Wing bias
Reality has a Right-Wing one
Suffice to say, I feel like the shift to authoritarianism in recent years and white grievance politics has soured me on my former party. I am not afraid of black, brown, or native people so I don't have any reason to want them harmed and think we should all work to help fellow Americans.
CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:18 am
Suffice to say, I feel like the shift to authoritarianism in recent years and white grievance politics has soured me on my former party. I am not afraid of black, brown, or native people so I don't have any reason to want them harmed and think we should all work to help fellow Americans.
Ha!
I've found the exact opposite. You said in another post (I believe) that you live in Montana - that might be the root of it. I'm from NY originally, lived most of my life there, so I've seen things go the exact opposite way in many ways. The authoritarianism is there, but it's from the Left, and all the victimhood seems to be coming from POCs/women, and a general "Fuck white men" attitude prevails.
Media has a Left-Wing bias
Reality has a Right-Wing one
CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:18 am
Suffice to say, I feel like the shift to authoritarianism in recent years and white grievance politics has soured me on my former party. I am not afraid of black, brown, or native people so I don't have any reason to want them harmed and think we should all work to help fellow Americans.
Ha!
I've found the exact opposite. You said in another post (I believe) that you live in Montana - that might be the root of it. I'm from NY originally, lived most of my life there, so I've seen things go the exact opposite way in many ways. The authoritarianism is there, but it's from the Left, and all the victimhood seems to be coming from POCs/women, and a general "Fuck white men" attitude prevails.
Kentucky actually but yes, the absolute redneckiest part of it. I remember watching JUSTIFIED and thinking, "They've got it pretty horrible....but they are still underselling it."
Draco Dracul wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:08 am
It makes sense, capitalism is incredibly harsh to the mentally ill. Also I find it funny that you're using a rag that thinks liberals are on the left.
I think it uses the term "Liberal" colloquially, in the American sense, to be interchangable with "Progressive"
Progressive liberals are still centrists at best because they believe capitalism can be fixed.
Draco Dracul wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:08 am
It makes sense, capitalism is incredibly harsh to the mentally ill. Also I find it funny that you're using a rag that thinks liberals are on the left.
I think it uses the term "Liberal" colloquially, in the American sense, to be interchangable with "Progressive"
Progressive liberals are still centrists at best because they believe capitalism can be fixed.
No, maybe they appear centered to how far-off-tilt you've gotten, but to the VAST majority of the world, the Prog Left is a tumor.
Media has a Left-Wing bias
Reality has a Right-Wing one
Draco Dracul wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:08 am
It makes sense, capitalism is incredibly harsh to the mentally ill. Also I find it funny that you're using a rag that thinks liberals are on the left.
I think it uses the term "Liberal" colloquially, in the American sense, to be interchangable with "Progressive"
Progressive liberals are still centrists at best because they believe capitalism can be fixed.
No, maybe they appear centered to how far-off-tilt you've gotten, but to the VAST majority of the world, the Prog Left is a tumor.
Progressive liberals are not on the left as to be on the left one must reject capitalism. They can be brought over to the left, but that require the realization that the abuses of capitalism are features and not bugs.
Draco Dracul wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:08 am
It makes sense, capitalism is incredibly harsh to the mentally ill. Also I find it funny that you're using a rag that thinks liberals are on the left.
I think it uses the term "Liberal" colloquially, in the American sense, to be interchangable with "Progressive"
Progressive liberals are still centrists at best because they believe capitalism can be fixed.
No, maybe they appear centered to how far-off-tilt you've gotten, but to the VAST majority of the world, the Prog Left is a tumor.
Progressive liberals are not on the left as to be on the left one must reject capitalism. They can be brought over to the left, but that require the realization that the abuses of capitalism are features and not bugs.
So what's better than Capitalism? You can't honestly believe humans can operate under Communism, can you? Because spoiler alert: We're not ants.
Media has a Left-Wing bias
Reality has a Right-Wing one