FBI Uncovered Russian Bribery Plot

[Robovski]

The Russia nothingburger continues to lack not only meat but even condiments or bun. Russia was free to buy advertising in any form. You are deflecting this actual evidence with disproven allegations.

[The Romulan Republic]

The Russia nothingburger continues to lack not only meat but even condiments or bun. Russia was free to buy advertising in any form. You are deflecting this actual evidence with disproven allegations.

So I see that "pretend the most recent story about the Facebook adds represent the full totality of the story" is the new Lie Du Jour that all the Right-wingers are jumping onto.

And, no, actually, I'm pretty sure that there are in fact laws regulating campaign advertising.

Your claim that I am bringing up false allegation to deflect from what that evil Clinton and Obama did is a misrepresentation of my actions and motives.

Tell me, how does it feel to sell out your country to defend a white supremacist?

The Russian lawyer meeting has been discredited to the point of meaninglessness:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10 ... -help.html

Comey could not get an obstruction of justice claim to stick:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/to ... c16bb525e4

Fox News is not a credible source. But yeah, I'm sure Russia would have used the Clinton campaign if it would have advanced their interests to do so, and if the Clinton campaign were willing to collude with them. Putin has no loyalty to Trump. Trump is just a useful tool to undermine America and its allies.

Do you deny that prominent members of the Trump campaign team contacted individuals associated with the Russian government for the purpose of getting dirt on Hillary Clinton? Or do you just consider such behavior ethically acceptable (at least as long as it benefits your side)?

Not sure the Huffingtonpost is terribly credible either, for that matter (though its flaws are different), but... the Obstruction of Justice Case has not been tested in court, perhaps because the investigation is not yet complete. However, "Not yet proven" is not the same as "didn't happen". Trump outright admitted, IIRC, that he fired Comey because of the Russian investigation.

[Robovski]

I'll re-state my earlier position, you have noting to contribute but name calling and your worrisome creed of regressive leftism. You continue to deflect, this time by suggesting I am a treasonist, white supremacist, right-winger. Suggesting that just because there are laws for campaign advertising means that they were broken does not mean that they were. If you come up with something of actual substance perhaps someone may listen to you someday oh boy who cries wolf every hour on the hour.

[The Romulan Republic]

I did not call you a white supremacist. I said you are defending one, which is accurate. Why you feel the need to do so, I won't venture to speculate.

Also: calling leftists regressive isn't cute, and it isn't clever. Its just a vapid ad hominem (and rather hypocritical from someone who whines about my "name calling"). Its just a way (as your post demonstrates) to lump every position I have that you disagree with under a single label, and dismiss them as my having "nothing to contribute" without actually addressing them. Lazy, and dishonest.

As to "treasonous"... you are obviously not guilty of Treason by the legal definition. However, in attempting to dismiss and excuse allegations of interference in your country's politics by a hostile foreign government, because acknowledging it does not suite your partisan agenda, you are in my view nonetheless guilty of betraying your country for no good cause.

[Steve]

*rubs forehead*

Okay, how about this? TRR, don't use inflammatory terms to describe your opponents, even if you think you can argue their accuracy.

Robovski, the same goes to you. The "regressive left" tag seems to be a popular go-to attack to say "I'm declaring you as having nothing interesting to say and of being a bad person for being against me", which is no better than someone accusing you of being a protector of racism and bigotry or a traitor shilling for His Putinness.

And for everyone, if you feel someone has linked a source you find insufficient, please explain why it is. Show why you think the way you do about it.

And if you don't have the time to do that... then why are you arguing on the Internet in the first place? Go do something more productive with your time. Be like me, spending your spare moments writing tens of thousands of words of fanfic that will probably be read by a hundred people max. Or get into an MMO or something.

P.S. Warnings issued to TRR and Robovski.

[TGLS]

OK. Why isn't there a second source for The Hill story that doesn't cite The Hill?

[Darth Wedgius]

*rubs forehead*

And if you don't have the time to do that... then why are you arguing on the Internet in the first place? Go do something more productive with your time. Be like me, spending your spare moments writing tens of thousands of words of fanfic that will probably be read by a hundred people max. Or get into an MMO or something.

Woah, hold up there... You get a hundred people to read your fanfics? My last one got read by 40 people, and that's only if my dog glancing at it counts. And I had to put a chew treat on the pad for that.

[Karha of Honor]

I did not call you a white supremacist. I said you are defending one, which is accurate. Why you feel the need to do so, I won't venture to speculate.

Also: calling leftists regressive isn't cute, and it isn't clever. Its just a vapid ad hominem (and rather hypocritical from someone who whines about my "name calling"). Its just a way (as your post demonstrates) to lump every position I have that you disagree with under a single label, and dismiss them as my having "nothing to contribute" without actually addressing them. Lazy, and dishonest.

As to "treasonous"... you are obviously not guilty of Treason by the legal definition. However, in attempting to dismiss and excuse allegations of interference in your country's politics by a hostile foreign government, because acknowledging it does not suite your partisan agenda, you are in my view nonetheless guilty of betraying your country for no good cause.

How is Trump a white supremacist exactly?

*rubs forehead*

Okay, how about this? TRR, don't use inflammatory terms to describe your opponents, even if you think you can argue their accuracy.

Robovski, the same goes to you. The "regressive left" tag seems to be a popular go-to attack to say "I'm declaring you as having nothing interesting to say and of being a bad person for being against me", which is no better than someone accusing you of being a protector of racism and bigotry or a traitor shilling for His Putinness.

And for everyone, if you feel someone has linked a source you find insufficient, please explain why it is. Show why you think the way you do about it.

And if you don't have the time to do that... then why are you arguing on the Internet in the first place? Go do something more productive with your time. Be like me, spending your spare moments writing tens of thousands of words of fanfic that will probably be read by a hundred people max. Or get into an MMO or something.

P.S. Warnings issued to TRR and Robovski.

Calling someone a regressive leftist is nothing like calling someone a racist. Calling someone a racist is like calling someone a child molester. Calling someone a regressive is like calling a Crusader out for sacking Constantinopole. If you don't live up to your stated principles...

[SuccubusYuri]

(the double secret probation sauce is; don't argue with the mods. this is forum 101)

[Karha of Honor]

(the double secret probation sauce is; don't argue with the mods. this is forum 101)

In most forums the mods are complete inconsistent aholes who should just keep child porn of the site and shut the fuck up besides that, but i trust SF and his crew.. He can suggest to take it to pm's.