Most White Leftists are Mentally Ill

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Were populist sentiments leading to Lenin and Mao really known to be based on revolt?

[Draco Dracul]

Were populist sentiments leading to Lenin and Mao really known to be based on revolt?

There was popular support to overthrow the Tsar, and a majority of the population supported left parties in Russia at the time, but the other two left parties wanted to hand power over to the liberals who had just established a dictatorship ruled by 5 men and had recently tried to kill them. Additionally while the structure of the Soviet government made it too easy for one man to assume absolute power there was still a chance for reform if Lenin hadn't died when he did or even if someone other than Stalin was left in charge.

Mao was the victor of a decades long civil war meaning he had plurality of support if not a majority.

Edit: I personally believe that both the USSR and People's Republic of China represent failures of communism. A big reason why I am a communist even though I think it could take many more tries to get it to work is that capitalism functioning as intended will kill us all and is in the process of doing so right now. Exxon knew about the devastating effects of climate change over 40 years ago and pumped out billions of dollars of anti-science propaganda just to protect thier bottom line.

[Beastro]

Whether this is true or not doesn't matter. This is a partisan barb being thrown to hurt the opposition that does no good.

The basic assumption here is to invalidate people based upon an assumption. That assumption is that all mentally ill are crazy and this is evidence to discount Leftist opinions as well as to stigmatize them.

It's bullshit.

It's the same with the race and IQ controversy. Whether true or not, both sides assume that higher intelligence = more valuable person, so proving that blacks have lower IQs makes them less human and of less value. Being less intelligent doesn't equate to that, especially when intelligence has no baring on wisdom. We have an obsession with intelligence in the modern world, hence why the word "smart" is a conflation of intelligence with wisdom ("That wasn't a very smart thing to do").

I'd rather have less intelligent people in the world if it meant having more wiser people in it.

There's another thing; since Left-leaning people are higher in openness, it could be that they are more susceptible to cultural shifts and their damaging effects. If that is true, then people on the Right reacting like this is the equivalent of coal miners laughing and sneering at the canaries around them dying instead of being concerned.

[Beastro]

Yes, that is completely incorrect as we have functional nonimpoverished Western economies with large social safety nets.

Not just the shitshow in the US.

Canada's medical system is heavily overburdened. So many are ignorant of the fact and my GP is sitting back just waiting for the entire thing to collapse under the weight of demand.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Hey Beastro, has you or anyone you know ever tried to ration their insulin? Are there any reports of Canadians dying because their gofundme for insulin failed?

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Whether this is true or not doesn't matter.

Whether something is true or not always matters.

[Beastro]

Whether this is true or not doesn't matter.

Whether something is true or not always matters.

There's the fact value distinction at play here.

If more people on the Left are mentally ill that doesn't mean what Reality assumes when he says: "That maybe, just maybe, "your truth" is just a misunderstanding/hallucination/delusion?". The assumption is all mental illness is "craziness", thus their opinions are invalid if not dangerous for this reason alone and the Left should be treated as such. There is far more to mental illness than psychosis and delusion.

I can and will disagree with the Left, but I do not think they are insane even if I often struggle to grasp their points of view. If they are more mentally ill I'm willing to bet it's just a higher degree of "mundane" disorders like generalized anxiety and clinical depression. An aside: OCD tends to be a conservative disorder; it correlates with high contentiousness which itself is correlated to political conservatism. There is more at play with mental health and political leanings than what Reality is bringing up here.

As someone with his own mental health struggles as well as someone training to have a profession in mental health I do not like it being dragged into politics to demonize the opposition.

[TGLS]

Hey Beastro, has you or anyone you know ever tried to ration their insulin? Are there any reports of Canadians dying because their gofundme for insulin failed?

To be fair, the lower prices of insulin in Canada has less to do with the "single-payer" insurance programs and more to do with price controls on pharmaceuticals.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Hey Beastro, has you or anyone you know ever tried to ration their insulin? Are there any reports of Canadians dying because their gofundme for insulin failed?

To be fair, the lower prices of insulin in Canada has less to do with the "single-payer" insurance programs and more to do with price controls on pharmaceuticals.

What's the difference? The government here could easily say stuff like, "alright, no more price gouging for saline bags due to balanced distribution packages," and we'd avoid the same problem.

[TGLS]

Hey Beastro, has you or anyone you know ever tried to ration their insulin? Are there any reports of Canadians dying because their gofundme for insulin failed?

To be fair, the lower prices of insulin in Canada has less to do with the "single-payer" insurance programs and more to do with price controls on pharmaceuticals.

What's the difference? The government here could easily say stuff like, "alright, no more price gouging for saline bags due to balanced distribution packages," and we'd avoid the same problem.

Yeah exactly. You can have American, British, Canadian, German, or whichever style health care system, but any way you cut it the solution is price controls on pharma.