'The Proud Boys are Dangerous - Know Your Fash' - [Thought Slime]

[Reality]

Yes, the Weimar Dynasty was so degenerate they turned Germany Fascist out of spite. Can't wait for that to happen again, thanks Progressives...

Really interesting that you blame the people pushing for positive change rather than conservatives that were willing to work with the Nazis when they assumed it would only be the Social Democrats and Communists that would get got. It's equally interesting that you are blaming the progressives rather that republicans who have refused to stop the rise of fascism in their party, opting again and again to side against democracy in the name of holding on to power just a little longer. It ultimately sounds like you believe that way to defeat fascists is to give into their demands. Paul von Hindenburg was convinced of that, it lead directly to Hitler ceasing power when in the previous election the Nazis were starting to lose steam to the point were it not for the fact that Hitler was Chancellor and able to enact mass violence against his opponents in the wake of the Reichstag Fire, the Nazi party would have likely started to fall apart.

Also, it's Weimar Republic. Dynasty refers to the surname of related political rulers that hold power continuously, most often monarchs. The Weimar in Weimar Republic is name of the city in which the constitution was adopted.

I've always heard of it as the Weimar Dynasty. And yes, people hate the far Left so much they'll take ANYONE else. That's what you should learn from history.

This is literally the first time I've heard anyone say Weimer dynasty in my life.

Between your statements here and the fact that you hang out with proud boys you are if not a fascist someone who at the very least doesn't have a problem with fascism.

I have the same problem with Fascism as I have with Communism or Socialism. Fuck Authoritarian regimes.

Communism isn't inherently authoritarian. Fascism is both inherently authoritarian and genocidal.

Tell that to the Kulaks.

[Draco Dracul]

Yes, the Weimar Dynasty was so degenerate they turned Germany Fascist out of spite. Can't wait for that to happen again, thanks Progressives...

Really interesting that you blame the people pushing for positive change rather than conservatives that were willing to work with the Nazis when they assumed it would only be the Social Democrats and Communists that would get got. It's equally interesting that you are blaming the progressives rather that republicans who have refused to stop the rise of fascism in their party, opting again and again to side against democracy in the name of holding on to power just a little longer. It ultimately sounds like you believe that way to defeat fascists is to give into their demands. Paul von Hindenburg was convinced of that, it lead directly to Hitler ceasing power when in the previous election the Nazis were starting to lose steam to the point were it not for the fact that Hitler was Chancellor and able to enact mass violence against his opponents in the wake of the Reichstag Fire, the Nazi party would have likely started to fall apart.

Also, it's Weimar Republic. Dynasty refers to the surname of related political rulers that hold power continuously, most often monarchs. The Weimar in Weimar Republic is name of the city in which the constitution was adopted.

I've always heard of it as the Weimar Dynasty. And yes, people hate the far Left so much they'll take ANYONE else. That's what you should learn from history.

This is literally the first time I've heard anyone say Weimer dynasty in my life.

Between your statements here and the fact that you hang out with proud boys you are if not a fascist someone who at the very least doesn't have a problem with fascism.

I have the same problem with Fascism as I have with Communism or Socialism. Fuck Authoritarian regimes.

Communism isn't inherently authoritarian. Fascism is both inherently authoritarian and genocidal.

Tell that to the Kulaks.

Stalin was a monster and actively hurt the cause of communism.

[CmdrKing]

Really it’s surprising the right doesn’t love Stalin. I mean, he too was an authoritarian ultra-nationalist committed to bringing the “lesser” peoples (in this case non-Russian Slavs) under his banner and ensuring the religious and moral ‘purity’ of his people.

[TGLS]

Alright, that's enough. Warnings have been issued, feel free to continue the previous conversation.

[BBally81]

I haven't put my two cents in regarding the Proud Boys but what I heard doesn't exactly give any good vibes about them:

At the 2017 March 4 Trump rally in Berkeley, California, Kyle Chapman was recorded hitting a counter-protester over the head with a wooden dowel. Images of Chapman went viral, and the Proud Boys organized a crowdfunding campaign for Chapman's bail after his arrest. After this, McInnes invited Chapman to become involved with the Proud Boys, through which he formed the Fraternal Order of the Alt-Knights

In January 2019, Reggie Axtell, a member of the Proud Boys, threatened Ted Wheeler, Portland, Oregon's Democratic mayor, in a Facebook video post. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, Axtell said in the video that Wheeler's "days are fucking numbered ... I promise you this, Ted Wheeler: I'm coming for you, you little punk." Axtell also said that he would "unmask every [anti-fascist] son of a bitch that I come across", referring to a campaign initiated by Patriot Prayer leader Joey Gibson, Proud Boy Tusitala "Tiny" Toese and former Proud Boy Russell Schultz to tear off the bandanas of anti-fascist demonstrators and taking pictures of their faces, thereby "demasking" them. The announcement of the campaign came shortly after an altercation that took place when Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer members attempted and failed to invade a chapter meeting of the left-wing organization Democratic Socialists of America. The groups clashed with anti-fascist activists nearby after being denied entry to the meeting, and said that they had been attacked.

In July 2019, it was reported that on several occasions Proud Boys had gone to the homes of their critics and menaced them. In June 2018, Vic Berger, who posts videos online mocking far-right figures, including Proud Boy founder Gavin McInnes, reported that he was visited at his home by a Proud Boy who told him: "You're really hurting the Proud Boys. You need to stop making these videos." Berger later said he had come into possession of an internal Proud Boy document which called for Proud Boys to find the addresses of their opponents and those of their relatives and "SHOW THEM THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES!!!"

On June 29, 2019, a group of Proud Boys showed up at 11 p.m. at the Philadelphia home of Gwen Snyder, who tracks the movements of the Proud Boys. Snyder was not home at the time, so the group spoke to a neighbor, telling them that Snyder needed to stop posting on Twitter the names of Proud Boys and other information about them. One of the group allegedly said: "You tell that fat bitch she better stop." Snyder reported the threat to the Philadelphia police, giving them security camera footage of the incident. Prior to the menacing of Snyder, an anonymous Proud Boy posted on Telegram, a messaging app, a comment which called for action against "Philly's biggest shit stains."

Washington resident and Proud Boys member Tusitala "Tiny" Toese, known for brawling in the streets of Portland and Seattle during political protests, was arrested in Washington on August 28, 2020. He was wanted for multiple probation violations related to his 2018 misdemeanor assault conviction that left a protester with stitches and a concussion in June 2018. Toese, previously affiliated with Patriot Prayer, had been observed participating in other assaults with members of the Proud Boys, including an assault at a Clark County, Washington mall in May 2018 and an assault in Seattle in June 2020.

Texas-based Proud Boys member Alan Swinney was arrested on September 30, 2020 and held in Oregon on "multiple assault charges, pointing a firearm at another, unlawful use of a weapon and unlawful use of tear gas, stun gun or mace." Swinney had been recorded firing airsoft pellets at protesters and journalists, and at one point brandished a revolver at his opponents during a Portland, Oregon protest in August 2020

They sound quite similar to Muslim extremists (I'm a Muslim BTW) with their fear tactics.

So yeah, another good video from Thought Slime.

[ProfessorDetective]

I haven't put my two cents in regarding the Proud Boys but what I heard doesn't exactly give any good vibes about them:

At the 2017 March 4 Trump rally in Berkeley, California, Kyle Chapman was recorded hitting a counter-protester over the head with a wooden dowel. Images of Chapman went viral, and the Proud Boys organized a crowdfunding campaign for Chapman's bail after his arrest. After this, McInnes invited Chapman to become involved with the Proud Boys, through which he formed the Fraternal Order of the Alt-Knights

In January 2019, Reggie Axtell, a member of the Proud Boys, threatened Ted Wheeler, Portland, Oregon's Democratic mayor, in a Facebook video post. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, Axtell said in the video that Wheeler's "days are fucking numbered ... I promise you this, Ted Wheeler: I'm coming for you, you little punk." Axtell also said that he would "unmask every [anti-fascist] son of a bitch that I come across", referring to a campaign initiated by Patriot Prayer leader Joey Gibson, Proud Boy Tusitala "Tiny" Toese and former Proud Boy Russell Schultz to tear off the bandanas of anti-fascist demonstrators and taking pictures of their faces, thereby "demasking" them. The announcement of the campaign came shortly after an altercation that took place when Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer members attempted and failed to invade a chapter meeting of the left-wing organization Democratic Socialists of America. The groups clashed with anti-fascist activists nearby after being denied entry to the meeting, and said that they had been attacked.

In July 2019, it was reported that on several occasions Proud Boys had gone to the homes of their critics and menaced them. In June 2018, Vic Berger, who posts videos online mocking far-right figures, including Proud Boy founder Gavin McInnes, reported that he was visited at his home by a Proud Boy who told him: "You're really hurting the Proud Boys. You need to stop making these videos." Berger later said he had come into possession of an internal Proud Boy document which called for Proud Boys to find the addresses of their opponents and those of their relatives and "SHOW THEM THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES!!!"

On June 29, 2019, a group of Proud Boys showed up at 11 p.m. at the Philadelphia home of Gwen Snyder, who tracks the movements of the Proud Boys. Snyder was not home at the time, so the group spoke to a neighbor, telling them that Snyder needed to stop posting on Twitter the names of Proud Boys and other information about them. One of the group allegedly said: "You tell that fat bitch she better stop." Snyder reported the threat to the Philadelphia police, giving them security camera footage of the incident. Prior to the menacing of Snyder, an anonymous Proud Boy posted on Telegram, a messaging app, a comment which called for action against "Philly's biggest shit stains."

Washington resident and Proud Boys member Tusitala "Tiny" Toese, known for brawling in the streets of Portland and Seattle during political protests, was arrested in Washington on August 28, 2020. He was wanted for multiple probation violations related to his 2018 misdemeanor assault conviction that left a protester with stitches and a concussion in June 2018. Toese, previously affiliated with Patriot Prayer, had been observed participating in other assaults with members of the Proud Boys, including an assault at a Clark County, Washington mall in May 2018 and an assault in Seattle in June 2020.

Texas-based Proud Boys member Alan Swinney was arrested on September 30, 2020 and held in Oregon on "multiple assault charges, pointing a firearm at another, unlawful use of a weapon and unlawful use of tear gas, stun gun or mace." Swinney had been recorded firing airsoft pellets at protesters and journalists, and at one point brandished a revolver at his opponents during a Portland, Oregon protest in August 2020

They sound quite similar to Muslim extremists (I'm a Muslim BTW) with their fear tactics.

So yeah, another good video from Thought Slime.

I always go back to that clip from 'The Newsroom' and think: why DIDN'T 'American Taliban' stick as a term?


youtu.be/4WVn2ubwIVM

[McAvoy]

I personally liked the HUGE speech in the very first scene in that show.

Anyway, I think it didn't stick because the term is loaded, or too loaded even for the media to use.

[Reality]

Really it’s surprising the right doesn’t love Stalin. I mean, he too was an authoritarian ultra-nationalist committed to bringing the “lesser” peoples (in this case non-Russian Slavs) under his banner and ensuring the religious and moral ‘purity’ of his people.

He's (was) anti-human rights, that makes him a Leftist.

[McAvoy]

Wow. Just wow.

[ProfessorDetective]

Wow. Just wow.

Yep. It's terrifying just how common that line of thinking is anymore.