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"All Good Things" - It's better to be blind than have your eyesight. Alternatively, don't try something three times because you'll get really, really confused at the paradox of it.
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Star Trek The Voyage Home & Star Trek Insurrection - Treason and mutiny is perfectly acceptable as long as you save lives doing so. Your government will reward you.
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The Final Frontier. We're all ready to betray one another at the sign of the first therapy session.
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DS9's "The Visitor" - Suicide is okay if you're old and lonely and think you're going to get your dad back.
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Yukaphile wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:42 pm DS9's "The Visitor" - Suicide is okay if you're old and lonely and think you're going to get your dad back.
You know the funny thing about that episode? The galaxy would have been better off if Sisko stayed dead. No Dominion war, Jadzia is still alive, the Bajorans and the Cardassians are allies, the Pah-Wraiths remained locked in the fire caves. The Klingons have DS9 but seem to be taking good care of it. And Jake's life was only bad because of his obsession. He had a wife, a career, a bright future. And he lost it all.

And there in lies the second moral of the episode: Don't try to make your life better at the expense of others. Because let me just repeat this once again: Jake is either guilty of the manslaughter of billions or just the manslaughter of Jadzia.

And speaking of killing millions, Sisko dying also seems to have stopped the events of Star Trek Picard from happening. Maybe keeping the omni-disciplined Jadzia alive allowed Spock to save the Romulan sun? She would have had a better chance at it than Ezri - let us all admit that at least.
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Plus Ezri stays in a job she's probably better suited to without the confusion of so many memories from previous lives weighing her down. :lol:

Another alternate aesop. Suicide can prevent your favorite franchises from being destroyed. And well, it can. If you're making a joke. ;)
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Here's an alternate aesop from "The Die Is Cast." Genocide is okay if you do it right. It's only when you do it wrong that you doom everyone around you, like Caesar did. :P
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Yukaphile wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:39 pm The Final Frontier. We're all ready to betray one another at the sign of the first therapy session.
Additional ones:

1. Women in their 50s are still able to win over Klingon hearts.

2. Ship's counselors are dangerously terrifying.

3. Starfleet is incredibly hesitant to believe a guy obviously mind-controlling people is using mind-control.

4. Maybe God thinks the Enterprise is an awesome starship and that's why he needs it.

5. When you need to kill gods, always call Klingons.

6. Spock not mentioning his brother from his dad's previous marriage before he was born is equivalent of a sanity blasting secret.
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clearspira wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:42 pm
Yukaphile wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:42 pm DS9's "The Visitor" - Suicide is okay if you're old and lonely and think you're going to get your dad back.
You know the funny thing about that episode? The galaxy would have been better off if Sisko stayed dead. No Dominion war, Jadzia is still alive, the Bajorans and the Cardassians are allies, the Pah-Wraiths remained locked in the fire caves. The Klingons have DS9 but seem to be taking good care of it. And Jake's life was only bad because of his obsession. He had a wife, a career, a bright future. And he lost it all.

And there in lies the second moral of the episode: Don't try to make your life better at the expense of others. Because let me just repeat this once again: Jake is either guilty of the manslaughter of billions or just the manslaughter of Jadzia.

And speaking of killing millions, Sisko dying also seems to have stopped the events of Star Trek Picard from happening. Maybe keeping the omni-disciplined Jadzia alive allowed Spock to save the Romulan sun? She would have had a better chance at it than Ezri - let us all admit that at least.
It's really the only time I can think of, off hand at least where the future isn't a bad thing unless someone was there or an event happens.

I mean really you are very much correct. Obviously Jake would not know about that.

You could honestly say that Old Jake caused the Dominion War by saving his father.
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Some more.

"Encounter at Farpoint" - Letting someone get tortured is okay if they're bad and you need to get information out of that. That can't possibly be abused in a post-9/11 world, nosir.

"The Ensigns of Command" - Trying to save people is a bad idea because they will kill you in return for the trouble, like when the leader dude shocked Data.

"The Survivors" - Xenocide isn't so bad if you have a guilty conscience because you can't be judged for it, no one is capable of it.

"Hollow Pursuits" - Emasculating your coworkers and sexually degrading them is okay so long as no one finds out about it. Think 1950s American workplace HR training videos for the 24th century. ;)

"Family" - If you wanna feel better about yourself, return to your abusive older brother, he'll "fix" you up, with a nice fight in the mud.

"The Reunion" - Revenge works out all right because the most you'll get for a hate honor murder is a reprimand on your service record.

"The Wounded" - Peace is bad, you should always listen to the renegades because they're right and war is the solution.
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