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I, too, hope he will be willing to retcon some of the sillier stuff from the most recent incarnation of the Doctor and the thing is, whatever one ultimately thinks of it as a whole, The Rise of Skywalker shows that it's possible to do this without outright contradicting the previous writers/content and being in your face about it.
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Lazerlike42 wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:34 pm I, too, hope he will be willing to retcon some of the sillier stuff from the most recent incarnation of the Doctor and the thing is, whatever one ultimately thinks of it as a whole, The Rise of Skywalker shows that it's possible to do this without outright contradicting the previous writers/content and being in your face about it.
Personally I think the best way to do that would be just ignore the elements you don't like, if you spend time on retconing the past that time where your not spending making a new story, and that is kinda what kill the comic book industry which I don't want to spread.
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Thebestoftherest wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:50 pm
Lazerlike42 wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:34 pm I, too, hope he will be willing to retcon some of the sillier stuff from the most recent incarnation of the Doctor and the thing is, whatever one ultimately thinks of it as a whole, The Rise of Skywalker shows that it's possible to do this without outright contradicting the previous writers/content and being in your face about it.
Personally I think the best way to do that would be just ignore the elements you don't like, if you spend time on retconing the past that time where your not spending making a new story, and that is kinda what kill the comic book industry which I don't want to spread.
I agree if you spend a bunch of time, but I think this is one thing that TRoS did well - at least if we assume retconning TLJ was a good thing to do: it sortof undid some of this stuff without spending hardly any time on it, for instance the characters essentially dismissing the "Holdo Maneuver" as basically just getting really lucky or having Luke catch the lightsaber and give it back to Rey. These small moments took very little time but did a lot in the way of retconning, or at least putting a different spin on, controversial stuff from TLJ. The thing I remember being most impressed with is that I knew going into the film that there were a lot of instances of retconning or walking back elements from TLJ, but to me they managed to do them in a way which I think would be acceptable or welcome to (in other words, to not anger) people who liked what TLJ did.
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I just hope they don't bring back an actor to replay the doctor for more than an episode other wise that would be the point where the show will stop growing.
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I'm going, to be honest, I have nothing against RTD but he isn't my favorite showrunner, and while yes he was a good showrunner that was in 2005 this is 2021 he might not be as good now as he was then.
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Of he could have grown and got better, he done plenty of work since DW.
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BBally81 wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:29 pm The NMD (Not My Doctor) crowd are treating this as if it's a victory for their cause, ignoring that RTD himself has no issues with there being a female Doctor, in fact he’s gone on record as saying that he thought Dame Judy Dench should have replaced David Tennant. So, even if we didn’t have 13 and other female Doctors making cameos in the novelisation of “Rose”, we have evidence that he’s just fine with the idea. or that he took a shot at Boris Johnson in his Rose epilogue short story portraying him as an Auton survivor from the events of that episode.

Could you imagine the social media reaction to Jack Harkness, the Van Statten character being a corrupt capitalist, or Rose & Mickey being interracial if they all happened today?

They would be labeled as "SJW propaganda" by morning. But because they all grew up with these, they get a free pass. They are somehow under the belief that politics in Doctor Who didn't start until 2018, showing they haven't properly seen the show in their lives.

In fact there was a 2005 column that was ranting about the revived series during the time Tennant was casted, where the author complains about the show suffering from political correctness and being sexist to straight males. (sound familiar?)

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So, I still wouldn't put it pass the NMD crowd to start complaining again as soon as RTD provides an episode they deem as too "woke".

Especially grifters like Nerdrotic and Bowlstrek

He’s unpredictable and as such I’m not going to make a prediction about who he will choose. In fact, I think the probability of the next Doctor being a white man has gone up a little. But he’s also someone who is very aware of the larger picture and how things can damage a brand, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he casts a BAME woman as the next Doctor. It’ll be because they’re someone he thinks will be great and wants to work with (or wants to continue working with), but I’d imagine he’d also be very aware of the situation surrounding Jodie and the idea that casting a man now could send the message that “the woman was a failure, so we’re not doing that again”.

But, again, he’s unpredictable, so I’m not going to try to predict what he will do. We are, after all, talking about a man who was working on an episode where Harry Potter books leak into real life and which was going to have J. K. Rowling playing herself as the companion, until David Tennant took him aside and quietly said ”don’t you think that’s actually a bit much?”

https://gizmodo.com/the-doctor-who-harr ... -t-5050362

So who knows?
*Cough* You realise that the NMD crowd are literally as old as Dr Who is? As in ''people were declaring the show dead the moment Hartnell became Troughton?'' They are not some new thing that has popped up since the Doctor got ovaries.

And lets be clear on this: bringing RTD back is a blatant and cynical ploy to bring the ratings back up. This show is now pulling in ratings lower than Sylvester McCoy. And yes, true, you cannot perform a true like-for-like comparison as viewing habits have changed, but even when compared to contemporary shows it isn't all that high. And the reason for that isn't just ovaries. Its the terrible scripts, the offensive retcons, the endless in-your-face woke BS. Any one of these things would have been bad but repairable. But combined? It has been devastating. The BBC has completely misread the market.

I said earlier that I was worried that Fourteen will be Ten-Lite, and that's because my prediction for this season is thus: It will be a by-the-numbers, back to basics, trying to please the crowd show that will try and repair the damage from the last few years. I reckon the Doctor will be white, male (although possibly gay), and back to a single companion. This season will be designed to not be hated - and as a result may end up as seeming quite unremarkable.
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That actually is a fair and we'll reason argument. I will give him the benefit of the doubt but I can see what your arguing helping.
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Thebestoftherest wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:55 pm Of he could have grown and got better, he done plenty of work since DW.
That is a possibility as well it could go either way
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I will see where it will go.
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