Biden task force has reunited 52 families separated under Trump

[Yukaphile]

Well, I'm open to what the problems are with me, but the problem is no one seems to say anything that really GETS TO THE CORE of what is required for me to take it on.

[Yukaphile]

One of my self-professed biggest problems has been ANGER. I get so blisteringly furious at the things I can't change that hurt me and others, I don't know what to do. Especially when it's so simple to see how it's not as hard as others claim. That's just lies or idiocy. My ARMHS worker has suggested I find better coping outlets. I have no idea what those would be since the world seems to be trying to steadily take away most of them - not just for me, but millions of other people. But listen. Every person on this planet now dreams of being something other than what we are. Why else would we have such seduction in concepts like the future? Outer space? The past? Changes to modern society? Or even death, for some people? Why else do people take drugs but to get so high, they can't comprehend reality anymore? Because life is damn hard and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. Perhaps I am just a conservative who never knew it and needs an awakening to change into something other than what I am. Because I don't like being what I am. It's too late for me because I wasted all my potential 20 years ago.

[Yukaphile]

I want change so fast, so much from the world, but it's just stagnant. We're stagnant.

[Thebestoftherest]

This feels a little off topic.

[McAvoy]

This feels a little off topic.

Just a tad bit.

[KitWargSpectacle]

Correct me if I am wrong, but we are not talking about people who legally applied for asylum in the US. They didn't legally apply for a VISA or a green card or citizenship. They didn't legally go through an employment agency settling overseas. They didn't legally go through any of the correct channels. They legally did... nothing. At all. They did nothing.

What they in fact did was march up to the border, barge their way in, BREAK THE LAW, and then were arrested and processed.

So basically, all of these proclamations about how evil I am for having a go at such poor blighted people just seeking jobs and freedom is suspect as best. They are criminals who did absolutely nothing by the book whatsoever.

BrOaK tHe LaW

WeNt AgAiNsT tHd BoOk

And that comes with it the fact that you do not have any idea who these people are or what other crimes that they have committed because they didn't do things properly.

Those are people that you want in your country is it? People who you have no idea about, could have done anything,

Nah that security question is in fact the ONLY justification for such measures - once they're found to not be violent/dangerous, or carrying diseases, and confirmed to be who they say they are (incl. being real families etc.), there's no justification to hold them anymore;

certainly none to not let them back south, if letting them through just yet is some kinda problem.

and are willing to break the law to get in?

Being the stereotypical republic1 that you are, I bet that phony indiscriminate OCD legalism of yours disappears really fast if, say, Brazilians are heard saying "only cops and criminals carry guns, which one are you?" lolol roflmao

[KitWargSpectacle]

Yeah, purebred Latino. Going generations back. From Mexico. Said those things.

So WHAT? Being a heartless asshole is not limited to a single color or creed. You think a few individuals can speak for the entire demographic? Latinos are not a Borg collective.

That and he is one of millions.

From Arizona. And let me tell you, he choked down a vote for Biden for his sisters. That won't hold in 2024.

Because I agree with arguments that classical liberals have raised, who are too "alt right" these days to the new world liberals, those arguments being that millions of immigrants have come here fleeing socialism in their own countries, and you WANT that here? What they escaped? You think you know more than POC when you virtue-signal about their needs so hard? Look at how many guilty white young liberals want to erase law enforcement, but that's NOT what REAL POC communities want. Hmm, very curious.

Your friend from Arizona can go shit in his hat and wear it.

What, you think I'm gonna agree with him just because he voted for Biden? I don't even like Biden. He voted for Biden reluctantly? What do you think I did, vote for him while drinking champagne and jerking off?

We're not "virtue signalling". We're being moral. We're saying "we shouldn't seperate families, cage kids, or otherwise inhumanely treat people, because that is senseless and evil." Just because you don't agree with it, or don't do the same, or don't see why somebody else would do it, doesn't make it "virtue signalling". Honestly all of this whinging about Virtue Signalling has really gotten me to consider if the "Evil Cannot Comprehend Good" trope is truth in television.

The whole "they're just hypocrites and phonies" is the cheapest trick in the book to try and "discredit" some given moral position.
Marquis de Sade used it rather clumsily, TDK Joker too, and the dimmest people buy into it.

"Vurtue signalling" is a behavior anyone can engage in, but somehow plonkers got this meme going that leftprog = virtue signalling and virtue signalling = leftprog.
They repeat those trite phrases like broken records, because they saw other people from "their ingroup" say them.

Refugees are not well-armed gangs. People fleeing violence are not the same as the perpetrators of said violence. What are YOU so scared of?[/quote

Care must be taken here, since not everyone who flees from armed gangsters is not-a-violent-gangster (they have gang wars there - or evil vs. evil wars in the ME), and not every poor-farmer-pushed-around-by-cartels is an enlightened never-hit-women-spontaneously paragon;

reality obv isn't Stargate where all the oppressed villagers are good sympathetic people.


However yeah, security is the only reason to hold those people (while checking on them), and we already know that both the rightwingers in power as well as the ones here aren't "just driven by reasonable security concerns".

And this "Yukaphile" character is someone who writes likd a barely incoherent rambler on top of that; so can't really be taken seriously either.

[KitWargSpectacle]

Yeah, purebred Latino. Going generations back. From Mexico. Said those things.

So WHAT? Being a heartless asshole is not limited to a single color or creed. You think a few individuals can speak for the entire demographic? Latinos are not a Borg collective.

That and he is one of millions.

From Arizona. And let me tell you, he choked down a vote for Biden for his sisters. That won't hold in 2024.

Because I agree with arguments that classical liberals have raised, who are too "alt right" these days to the new world liberals, those arguments being that millions of immigrants have come here fleeing socialism in their own countries, and you WANT that here? What they escaped? You think you know more than POC when you virtue-signal about their needs so hard? Look at how many guilty white young liberals want to erase law enforcement, but that's NOT what REAL POC communities want. Hmm, very curious.

Your friend from Arizona can go shit in his hat and wear it.

What, you think I'm gonna agree with him just because he voted for Biden? I don't even like Biden. He voted for Biden reluctantly? What do you think I did, vote for him while drinking champagne and jerking off?

We're not "virtue signalling". We're being moral. We're saying "we shouldn't seperate families, cage kids, or otherwise inhumanely treat people, because that is senseless and evil." Just because you don't agree with it, or don't do the same, or don't see why somebody else would do it, doesn't make it "virtue signalling". Honestly all of this whinging about Virtue Signalling has really gotten me to consider if the "Evil Cannot Comprehend Good" trope is truth in television.

The whole "they're just hypocrites and phonies" is the cheapest trick in the book to try and "discredit" some given moral position.
Marquis de Sade used it rather clumsily, TDK Joker too, and the dimmest people buy into it.

"Vurtue signalling" is a behavior anyone can engage in, but somehow plonkers got this meme going that leftprog = virtue signalling and virtue signalling = leftprog.
They repeat those trite phrases like broken records, because they saw other people from "their ingroup" say them.

Refugees are not well-armed gangs. People fleeing violence are not the same as the perpetrators of said violence. What are YOU so scared of?

Care must be taken here, since not everyone who flees from armed gangsters is not-a-violent-gangster (they have gang wars there - or evil vs. evil wars in the ME), and not every poor-farmer-pushed-around-by-cartels is an enlightened never-hit-women-spontaneously paragon;

reality obv isn't Stargate where all the oppressed villagers are good sympathetic people.


However yeah, security is the only reason to hold those people (while checking on them), and we already know that both the rightwingers in power as well as the ones here aren't "just driven by reasonable security concerns".

And this "Yukaphile" character is someone who writes likd a barely incoherent rambler on top of that; so can't really be taken seriously either.