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McAvoy wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:00 am OK depends on the context. Yes it's rude to talk about someone as if they are not there.

If you are the military it's common to talk about someone who is there in the third person. Or in certain jobs.

Supervisor: Can we trust Smith with this job?

Me: Yes, she has helped me before on this job before. She will be fine.

Supervisor: OK.

I turn around to Smith and say 'get to work'.
Is that common? Still sounds pretty rude to me unless Smith was only one of several people there waiting to be given tasks to do. If it was just Smith I'd expect that conversation to have been made before you, the supervisor and her were together in the same place.
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Riedquat wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:52 am
McAvoy wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:00 am OK depends on the context. Yes it's rude to talk about someone as if they are not there.

If you are the military it's common to talk about someone who is there in the third person. Or in certain jobs.

Supervisor: Can we trust Smith with this job?

Me: Yes, she has helped me before on this job before. She will be fine.

Supervisor: OK.

I turn around to Smith and say 'get to work'.
Is that common? Still sounds pretty rude to me unless Smith was only one of several people there waiting to be given tasks to do. If it was just Smith I'd expect that conversation to have been made before you, the supervisor and her were together in the same place.
The military has its own thing. Don't talk unless spoken to unless you are of the same rank. So you can easily talk about someone who is there and he or she will remain silent until spoken to directly.

In my own job its not that strict, but it does happen without being actually rude.
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McAvoy wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:50 am The military has its own thing. Don't talk unless spoken to unless you are of the same rank. So you can easily talk about someone who is there and he or she will remain silent until spoken to directly.

In my own job its not that strict, but it does happen without being actually rude.
Sure there are times when talking to someone like that might be necessary but other than that it's still rude IMO, stupid move if it's regarded as the norm because it'll just piss people off even if there's nothing they can do about it. Can't be good for military working if everyone thinks that those more senior to them are a bunch of idiotic jerks.
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McAvoy wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:00 am OK depends on the context. Yes it's rude to talk about someone as if they are not there.

If you are the military it's common to talk about someone who is there in the third person. Or in certain jobs.

Supervisor: Can we trust Smith with this job?

Me: Yes, she has helped me before on this job before. She will be fine.

Supervisor: OK.

I turn around to Smith and say 'get to work'.
Yeah on a level I can see it as just as rude to break the meeting apart just to do that.

I forgot that you were in the military. Thank you specifically.
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McAvoy wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:00 am OK depends on the context. Yes it's rude to talk about someone as if they are not there.

If you are the military it's common to talk about someone who is there in the third person. Or in certain jobs.

Supervisor: Can we trust Smith with this job?

Me: Yes, she has helped me before on this job before. She will be fine.

Supervisor: OK.

I turn around to Smith and say 'get to work'.
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KitWargSpectacle wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:34 pm
McAvoy wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:00 am OK depends on the context. Yes it's rude to talk about someone as if they are not there.

If you are the military it's common to talk about someone who is there in the third person. Or in certain jobs.

Supervisor: Can we trust Smith with this job?

Me: Yes, she has helped me before on this job before. She will be fine.

Supervisor: OK.

I turn around to Smith and say 'get to work'.
Chad.
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KitWargSpectacle wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:25 amNo.
Good talk. Especially when I actually answered in instance where talking in a third person in front of that person may happen.

But you call me Chad for some reason.
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Riedquat wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:51 am
McAvoy wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:50 am The military has its own thing. Don't talk unless spoken to unless you are of the same rank. So you can easily talk about someone who is there and he or she will remain silent until spoken to directly.

In my own job its not that strict, but it does happen without being actually rude.
Sure there are times when talking to someone like that might be necessary but other than that it's still rude IMO, stupid move if it's regarded as the norm because it'll just piss people off even if there's nothing they can do about it. Can't be good for military working if everyone thinks that those more senior to them are a bunch of idiotic jerks.
The military does its own thing. Take for example, you stand at attention which is that thousand yard stare with your arms at your side, you are allowed to speak, but rarely can you talk on your own. Whereas if you stand a parade rest, you cannot speak ever.

Like I said, military has its own thing.

Usually, to talk about a person while that person is there usually involves your supervisor of a certain rank like E-5 or E-6 when talking to a E-7 or higher. In this case, you the silent person, is receiving orders.

In my civilian job, this does happen, but it's obviously far far looser.
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