Lesbians being pressured into sex by pre-op transwomen

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Now saying trans men aren't real men because a hormone imbalance they can't control affected their physical development? That's prejudice.

It's pretty inaccurate none the less.

Overall you can assert from two sides here that, while recognizing gender as a social construct, the personal development is determined to be as valid as the socially conventional development. There is science to suggest a lot more connective brain chemistry, as has been brought up by CmdrKing in the past iirc. Also that, though I'm personally not too certain on if there is a neurological foundation for it, civil society and its social institutions are a COMPLETELY different matter.

The whole civil society/social institutions thing is slippery, though. I mean, the situation in the feminist "gender roles are stupid and even your grandparents' generation didn't take them seriously except as an obstacle" household and their social circle and the fundamentalist "strict gender roles are built into human nature and are God's will" household next door and their social circle is going to be completely different.

As far as government check boxes, that for instance is a bit overdue. Also the medical institutional knowledge that reaches into psychiatric counseling for the transition process, where more MDs are referring to qualified doctors or psychiatrists for a multitude of clinical reasons... It's important as a society to have awareness of this stuff.

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Now saying trans men aren't real men because a hormone imbalance they can't control affected their physical development? That's prejudice.

It's pretty inaccurate none the less.

Overall you can assert from two sides here that, while recognizing gender as a social construct, the personal development is determined to be as valid as the socially conventional development. There is science to suggest a lot more connective brain chemistry, as has been brought up by CmdrKing in the past iirc. Also that, though I'm personally not too certain on if there is a neurological foundation for it, civil society and its social institutions are a COMPLETELY different matter.

The whole civil society/social institutions thing is slippery, though. I mean, the situation in the feminist "gender roles are stupid and even your grandparents' generation didn't take them seriously except as an obstacle" household and their social circle and the fundamentalist "strict gender roles are built into human nature and are God's will" household next door and their social circle is going to be completely different.

As far as government check boxes, that for instance is a bit overdue. Also the medical institutional knowledge that reaches into psychiatric counseling for the transition process, where more MDs are referring to qualified doctors or psychiatrists for a multitude of clinical reasons... It's important as a society to have awareness of this stuff.

I agree in general, with the caveat that the check boxes are actually super convenient in my state by "interacting with bureaucracy" standards. I <3 NY.