Anti Vaxxers wearing yellow star in protest

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Re: Anti Vaxxers wearing yellow star in protest

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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:24 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:28 pm Antivaxxers are exactly equivalent to people who defecate directly in the drinking water supply and then blame the cholera outbreak on toilet users. It's suicide and murder on a massive scale for nothing but childish spite. Comparing being prevented from continuing to do so to being the victims of genocide is... well pretty on-brand, honestly.
Look just because they voted for Trump in '16 doesn't mean they're all racists.
True, many of them are enablers or dupes
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Mickey_Rat15 wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:45 pm The Biden Administration is trying to implement regulations to make it illegal for the unvaccinated to hold a job, by the dubious method of coopting private employers to police and enforce its wants as the federal government does not have the constitutional authority to do this directly.
A great deal changed in our nation when people who viewed the restrictions on government as obstacles to be overcome instead of guides to be followed took power. I've heard people say Woodrow Wilson was the first President to think and act so. But he certainly wasn't the last.
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Frustration wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:51 pm
Mickey_Rat15 wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:45 pm The Biden Administration is trying to implement regulations to make it illegal for the unvaccinated to hold a job, by the dubious method of coopting private employers to police and enforce its wants as the federal government does not have the constitutional authority to do this directly.
A great deal changed in our nation when people who viewed the restrictions on government as obstacles to be overcome instead of guides to be followed took power. I've heard people say Woodrow Wilson was the first President to think and act so. But he certainly wasn't the last.
The way I see it, if they want to work themselves to the bone in an Amazon warehouse for minium wage that their business, but don't act like they have anyone to blame but themselves for it.
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Frustration wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:51 pm
Mickey_Rat15 wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:45 pm The Biden Administration is trying to implement regulations to make it illegal for the unvaccinated to hold a job, by the dubious method of coopting private employers to police and enforce its wants as the federal government does not have the constitutional authority to do this directly.
A great deal changed in our nation when people who viewed the restrictions on government as obstacles to be overcome instead of guides to be followed took power. I've heard people say Woodrow Wilson was the first President to think and act so. But he certainly wasn't the last.
A great deal has changed when people stopped trying to sneeze under the sneezeguard at salad bars and use bare hands instead of tongues.

Seriously though, executive branch power has been expanding for decades and THIS is where you decide to raise alarm bells? Making sure people are inoculated against a plague that has killed 700,000?
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I've been "raising alarm bells" for a very long time.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:14 pm
A great deal has changed when people stopped trying to sneeze under the sneezeguard at salad bars and use bare hands instead of tongues.

Seriously though, executive branch power has been expanding for decades and THIS is where you decide to raise alarm bells? Making sure people are inoculated against a plague that has killed 700,000?
Really you could probably trace the current attitude towards executive power back to Lincoln, because it comes down to the same basic problem: there is a segment of the population who actively refuse to act for the common good or respect the rights and dignity of their fellow citizens unless coerced. So the role of the federal government became, in part, providing that coercion. And as noted upthread as coercive tactics from the federal government goes, "large companies must provide proof all employees are either vaccinated or tested at least weekly" is pretty tame. But of course no Christian conservative could pass up an opportunity to cry oppression while actively harming others.
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CmdrKing wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:15 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:14 pm
A great deal has changed when people stopped trying to sneeze under the sneezeguard at salad bars and use bare hands instead of tongues.

Seriously though, executive branch power has been expanding for decades and THIS is where you decide to raise alarm bells? Making sure people are inoculated against a plague that has killed 700,000?
Really you could probably trace the current attitude towards executive power back to Lincoln, because it comes down to the same basic problem: there is a segment of the population who actively refuse to act for the common good or respect the rights and dignity of their fellow citizens unless coerced. So the role of the federal government became, in part, providing that coercion. And as noted upthread as coercive tactics from the federal government goes, "large companies must provide proof all employees are either vaccinated or tested at least weekly" is pretty tame. But of course no Christian conservative could pass up an opportunity to cry oppression while actively harming others.
Yeah, it is like when those numbskulls claim america is against the republican the same way the Nazi were against the Jews. If any of them had to face a tenth of what happen all those decades ago they would break down crying, no this is jsut a bunch of cry baby pretending to be the victims because if they didn't they had to accept they were in the wrong.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:45 pm
Mickey_Rat15 wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:45 pm Aside from matters of taste in using the yellow star, are they actually wrong?
Yep. We're trying to keep them alive. The Nazis were trying to kill the Jews.
That is the point of this whole post. Nazis were actively looking for Jews to round up and kill. Gas chambers, starving to death, killed in a mass grave by gun shot, worked to death as literally slaves in factories. Seperating families with many who did survive never seeing their loved ones again. At best some Jews managed to leave that in time to come to the the US or other countries.

The Jewish world wide population took decades to recover numbers wise.

And it wasn't just Jews either.

But yeah, anti Vaxxers comparing themselves to Jews because Biden. Because Trump. Because whatever.
I got nothing to say here.
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