Police barely solve any crime

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Police reputation varies from region to region. A lot of factors can stack against a police force, just given the fact that it's a centralized organization funded by local municipality taxes. Like minimum wage, a well endowed city per capita is more likely to have a properly functioning police force that doesn't fall to the trappings of urban decay.

Except it's precisely the cities full of Urban decay that still have massive police budgets. Look at any major metropolitan area and it's likely to be bigger than all the infrastructure put together.

So spend so much money on them if they don't actually do anything about the vast majority of serious crime?

See bold.

Sorry I didn't pay better attention to your post.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Police reputation varies from region to region. A lot of factors can stack against a police force, just given the fact that it's a centralized organization funded by local municipality taxes. Like minimum wage, a well endowed city per capita is more likely to have a properly functioning police force that doesn't fall to the trappings of urban decay.

Except it's precisely the cities full of Urban decay that still have massive police budgets. Look at any major metropolitan area and it's likely to be bigger than all the infrastructure put together.

So spend so much money on them if they don't actually do anything about the vast majority of serious crime?

See bold.

Sorry I didn't pay better attention to your post.

Your money's no good here anyway.

8D

[Thebestoftherest]

I do wonder if body cams would help.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I do wonder if body cams would help.

That'll just make them beat me up more.

[McAvoy]

I do wonder if body cams would help.

Has anyone here looked up any stats on body cams? I haven't. Just curious if anyone done any leg work on it.

[clearspira]

I do wonder if body cams would help.

Has anyone here looked up any stats on body cams? I haven't. Just curious if anyone done any leg work on it.

They're extremely common here in the UK and they work well. But then, our police are better than yours. I don't mean that in a ''look at how amazing we are'' kind of way, just a statement.

Our cops do not carry guns. They carry batons and sometimes tasers. This means that our cops actually have to defuse a situation peacefully instead of just pointing a Glock at the target lest they get an ass-kicking. This is very god motivation for being civil with the public. And each and every time they do strike a member of the public? Suspension with pay pending a full investigation to see if such action was warranted. No ifs, no buts.

The members of our police that are allowed to carry firearms are a specially trained unit that is called in when ''carrying a stick'' isn't enough. And the only way to become an Authorised Firearms Officer to to first have years worth of on the job experience then to attend a six week course (with two week refreshers every year). During a situation where he has to discharge his firearm? Suspension with pay pending a full investigation to see if such action was warranted. No ifs, no buts.
In the US? About 40 hours of training then you are good to go.

Do you want to join a police pursuit? Fine. That's years of on the job experience, an extensive course where you can prove you are an expert behind the wheel, a 30 mile training pursuit exam, and at minimum 680 hours of driving experience behind the wheel of a police car.
In the US? Again, about 40 hours of driving training on average. A bit more if you are joining highway patrol.

The problem isn't the police. The problem is that your police are a bunch of poorly trained cowboys with minimal accountability operating military grade hardware.

[Draco Dracul]

Didn't a cop in the UK murder a woman and then the government tried to use that to give more power to the police and the media tried to blame trans people for it?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Also remember the empire. I think we can all agree that was a bit misguided.

Also not all our police are poorly trained.

[clearspira]

Didn't a cop in the UK murder a woman and then the government tried to use that to give more power to the police and the media tried to blame trans people for it?

1) I assume you are referring to Sarah Everard. And yes, he did murder her. And what happened? He was arrested, charged, and imprisoned. He was not above the law. Whereas in the US, armed cops burst into a black woman's flat, shot her, and got away with it. Do you see the difference? And lets be honest, those cops only did not get away with killing George Floyd because it was on camera and literally the whole world was watching.

2) If you are talking about Sarah Everard, I have absolutely no clue who told you that the media tried to blame transpeople for it. I cannot remotely begin to think about the link there. I would suggest changing your news sources.

[clearspira]

Also remember the empire. I think we can all agree that was a bit misguided.

Also not all our police are poorly trained.

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Not really seeing the link between the British police of 2021 and the British Empire of which the last time it had any real relevance was 1945.

I also like how you phrased that. ''Not all'' of our police are poorly trained. The implication there being that quite a few actually are and you know it.