clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:34 pm
"I don't mind gay people but I wish they wouldn't be featured in anything I watch"
Its actually more like: ''I don't mind gay people but I wish they wouldn't be featured in everything I watch.''
A small but distinct difference. And frankly, I don't see why heterosexual people saying that they would rather watch heterosexual people is any different than your ''lets have the entire spectrum represented because I am on that spectrum'' approach. I have seen just as many LGBT people lose their shit that there are too many heterosexuals as there are people like you mocking heterosexuals for losing their shit.
"I want to see nobody that is different from me" and "I want to see at least somebody like me mixed in with the people different from me"? Exactly the same. /s
This isn't really a battle of principles you're engaged in. A lot of what he's talking about is fan reaction to inclusionary measures put forth in media. I wouldn't necessarily call the push subtle I guess, but it's rather innocuous and understandable from a cultural development standpoint. There's a push for normalization, and people are getting really excited over it at the same time, which leads to understandable indifference from their "older brothers." It's like the whole debate of whether freemium cellphone app goers should be called gamers or not (even though those groups are largely mutually exclusive from each other and have no reason to acknowledge, or dispute for that matter, each other's existence).
That being said, he's completely apathetic to any structured ideas of inclusion, and makes piecemeal effort to understand anything that goes on with progressive agendas.
clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:34 pm
"I don't mind gay people but I wish they wouldn't be featured in anything I watch"
Its actually more like: ''I don't mind gay people but I wish they wouldn't be featured in everything I watch.''
A small but distinct difference. And frankly, I don't see why heterosexual people saying that they would rather watch heterosexual people is any different than your ''lets have the entire spectrum represented because I am on that spectrum'' approach. I have seen just as many LGBT people lose their shit that there are too many heterosexuals as there are people like you mocking heterosexuals for losing their shit.
"I want to see nobody that is different from me" and "I want to see at least somebody like me mixed in with the people different from me"? Exactly the same. /s
This isn't really a battle of principles you're engaged in. A lot of what he's talking about is fan reaction to inclusionary measures put forth in media. I wouldn't necessarily call the push subtle I guess, but it's rather innocuous and understandable from a cultural development standpoint. There's a push for normalization, and people are getting really excited over it at the same time, which leads to understandable indifference from their "older brothers." It's like the whole debate of whether freemium cellphone app goers should be called gamers or not (even though those groups are largely mutually exclusive from each other and have no reason to acknowledge, or dispute for that matter, each other's existence).
That being said, he's completely apathetic to any structured ideas of inclusion, and makes piecemeal effort to understand anything that goes on with progressive agendas.
...who cares?
He's arguing for entire classes of people to be purged from media out of sheer bloody entitlement. As one of the people he wants eliminated from full cultural participation I don't give a single damn if he's too apathetic to care who the things he demands would hurt.
clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:34 pm
"I don't mind gay people but I wish they wouldn't be featured in anything I watch"
Its actually more like: ''I don't mind gay people but I wish they wouldn't be featured in everything I watch.''
A small but distinct difference. And frankly, I don't see why heterosexual people saying that they would rather watch heterosexual people is any different than your ''lets have the entire spectrum represented because I am on that spectrum'' approach. I have seen just as many LGBT people lose their shit that there are too many heterosexuals as there are people like you mocking heterosexuals for losing their shit.
"I want to see nobody that is different from me" and "I want to see at least somebody like me mixed in with the people different from me"? Exactly the same. /s
This isn't really a battle of principles you're engaged in. A lot of what he's talking about is fan reaction to inclusionary measures put forth in media. I wouldn't necessarily call the push subtle I guess, but it's rather innocuous and understandable from a cultural development standpoint. There's a push for normalization, and people are getting really excited over it at the same time, which leads to understandable indifference from their "older brothers." It's like the whole debate of whether freemium cellphone app goers should be called gamers or not (even though those groups are largely mutually exclusive from each other and have no reason to acknowledge, or dispute for that matter, each other's existence).
That being said, he's completely apathetic to any structured ideas of inclusion, and makes piecemeal effort to understand anything that goes on with progressive agendas.
...who cares?
He's arguing for entire classes of people to be purged from media out of sheer bloody entitlement. As one of the people he wants eliminated from full cultural participation I don't give a single damn if he's too apathetic to care who the things he demands would hurt.
Well WHY WERE THE ETERNALS HIDING DURING THANOS THEN.. haha jk
clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:34 pm
"I don't mind gay people but I wish they wouldn't be featured in anything I watch"
Its actually more like: ''I don't mind gay people but I wish they wouldn't be featured in everything I watch.''
A small but distinct difference. And frankly, I don't see why heterosexual people saying that they would rather watch heterosexual people is any different than your ''lets have the entire spectrum represented because I am on that spectrum'' approach. I have seen just as many LGBT people lose their shit that there are too many heterosexuals as there are people like you mocking heterosexuals for losing their shit.
"I want to see nobody that is different from me" and "I want to see at least somebody like me mixed in with the people different from me"? Exactly the same. /s
This isn't really a battle of principles you're engaged in. A lot of what he's talking about is fan reaction to inclusionary measures put forth in media. I wouldn't necessarily call the push subtle I guess, but it's rather innocuous and understandable from a cultural development standpoint. There's a push for normalization, and people are getting really excited over it at the same time, which leads to understandable indifference from their "older brothers." It's like the whole debate of whether freemium cellphone app goers should be called gamers or not (even though those groups are largely mutually exclusive from each other and have no reason to acknowledge, or dispute for that matter, each other's existence).
That being said, he's completely apathetic to any structured ideas of inclusion, and makes piecemeal effort to understand anything that goes on with progressive agendas.
...who cares?
He's arguing for entire classes of people to be purged from media out of sheer bloody entitlement. As one of the people he wants eliminated from full cultural participation I don't give a single damn if he's too apathetic to care who the things he demands would hurt.
LGBT Person: I want to see less heterosexual cispeople on TV.
Society: Fine.
Hetereosexual Cisperson: I want to see less LGBT people on TV.
Society: YOU WANT TO PURGE A WHOLE CLASS OF PEOPLE FROM MEDIA!!!!! BLOODY ENTITLEMENT!!!! YOU DON'T CARE WHO YOU HURT!!!!
And people wonder why all discourse on this subject has become a controversial dumpster fire.
clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:34 pm
"I don't mind gay people but I wish they wouldn't be featured in anything I watch"
Its actually more like: ''I don't mind gay people but I wish they wouldn't be featured in everything I watch.''
A small but distinct difference. And frankly, I don't see why heterosexual people saying that they would rather watch heterosexual people is any different than your ''lets have the entire spectrum represented because I am on that spectrum'' approach. I have seen just as many LGBT people lose their shit that there are too many heterosexuals as there are people like you mocking heterosexuals for losing their shit.
"I want to see nobody that is different from me" and "I want to see at least somebody like me mixed in with the people different from me"? Exactly the same. /s
This isn't really a battle of principles you're engaged in. A lot of what he's talking about is fan reaction to inclusionary measures put forth in media. I wouldn't necessarily call the push subtle I guess, but it's rather innocuous and understandable from a cultural development standpoint. There's a push for normalization, and people are getting really excited over it at the same time, which leads to understandable indifference from their "older brothers." It's like the whole debate of whether freemium cellphone app goers should be called gamers or not (even though those groups are largely mutually exclusive from each other and have no reason to acknowledge, or dispute for that matter, each other's existence).
That being said, he's completely apathetic to any structured ideas of inclusion, and makes piecemeal effort to understand anything that goes on with progressive agendas.
...who cares?
He's arguing for entire classes of people to be purged from media out of sheer bloody entitlement. As one of the people he wants eliminated from full cultural participation I don't give a single damn if he's too apathetic to care who the things he demands would hurt.
LGBT Person: I want to see less heterosexual cispeople on TV.
Society: Fine.
Hetereosexual Cisperson: I want to see less LGBT people on TV.
Society: YOU WANT TO PURGE A WHOLE CLASS OF PEOPLE FROM MEDIA!!!!! BLOODY ENTITLEMENT!!!! YOU DON'T CARE WHO YOU HURT!!!!
And people wonder why all discourse on this subject has become a controversial dumpster fire.
I dunno. It seems like you're equating: "I want to see more LGBT people in media" with "I want to see less non-LGBT people in media"
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clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:34 pm
"I don't mind gay people but I wish they wouldn't be featured in anything I watch"
Its actually more like: ''I don't mind gay people but I wish they wouldn't be featured in everything I watch.''
A small but distinct difference. And frankly, I don't see why heterosexual people saying that they would rather watch heterosexual people is any different than your ''lets have the entire spectrum represented because I am on that spectrum'' approach. I have seen just as many LGBT people lose their shit that there are too many heterosexuals as there are people like you mocking heterosexuals for losing their shit.
"I want to see nobody that is different from me" and "I want to see at least somebody like me mixed in with the people different from me"? Exactly the same. /s
This isn't really a battle of principles you're engaged in. A lot of what he's talking about is fan reaction to inclusionary measures put forth in media. I wouldn't necessarily call the push subtle I guess, but it's rather innocuous and understandable from a cultural development standpoint. There's a push for normalization, and people are getting really excited over it at the same time, which leads to understandable indifference from their "older brothers." It's like the whole debate of whether freemium cellphone app goers should be called gamers or not (even though those groups are largely mutually exclusive from each other and have no reason to acknowledge, or dispute for that matter, each other's existence).
That being said, he's completely apathetic to any structured ideas of inclusion, and makes piecemeal effort to understand anything that goes on with progressive agendas.
...who cares?
He's arguing for entire classes of people to be purged from media out of sheer bloody entitlement. As one of the people he wants eliminated from full cultural participation I don't give a single damn if he's too apathetic to care who the things he demands would hurt.
LGBT Person: I want to see less heterosexual cispeople on TV.
Society: Fine.
Hetereosexual Cisperson: I want to see less LGBT people on TV.
Society: YOU WANT TO PURGE A WHOLE CLASS OF PEOPLE FROM MEDIA!!!!! BLOODY ENTITLEMENT!!!! YOU DON'T CARE WHO YOU HURT!!!!
And people wonder why all discourse on this subject has become a controversial dumpster fire.
You know, saying it back sarcastically because a denial would be an outright lie isn't fooling anyone.
I think "I want to see less hetero people" transcribes more adequately to "we want to displace the exclusivity of hetero normative social narrative in media."
So we got 13 years of Marvel movies with a ton of heterosexual relationships with one in being front and center in the Eternals. Front and center! Seriously.
So if you don't like this homosexual relationship being 'forced' in your face then when will it be acceptable? Next movie? Ten more movies? When?
Let's face it, people who really hate these movies have issues with homosexuals. That's it.
McAvoy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:38 am
So we got 13 years of Marvel movies with a ton of heterosexual relationships with one in being front and center in the Eternals. Front and center! Seriously.
So if you don't like this homosexual relationship being 'forced' in your face then when will it be acceptable? Next movie? Ten more movies? When?
The indifference has nothing to do with how many there are or aren't. Relationships and sexual orientations aren't something that people generally wish to think about as things needing constant exposure and reassurance in a polysocial diverse framework. The normalization of heterosexuality is something that a lot of people take for granted because it's not being brought up as a requisite ingredient unless it's important to the plot. That understandably can apply (somewhat) to ethnicity, or pretty much anything that the dominant demographic isn't bridling with for attention.
clearspira triggered when people other than white heterosexual males are included in stuff?
What a surprise.
Of course, there's even a subset of Bond fans losing their shit by Q making a very brief reference to having a date that happens to be male. It was probably just one second of dialogue, but that was too much.
"THEY'RE SHOVING THE AGENDA DOWN MY THROAT!!!"
These people need to chill the fuck out and stop giving themselves anxiety over what shouldn't even be a big deal.
