"Free Britney Advocates Plan Rally to Support Star Trek's Nichelle Nichols"

[clearspira]

My grandparents had dimentia. Early on, it was them forgetting if they ate or not of if they paid a bill or not. Around I think 2014 is where my parents and my aunt had to step in and take care of them. Hiring nurses (who should have been part of their original job at the retirement home) to make sure they ate and my Mom paid the bills. But unfortunately they also outlived their retirement savings and really couldn't afford to live there anymore. And it was a stupid amount of money to live there too. We had to help pay for that until 2017 Grandpa died and then 2018 Grandma died. Both dimentia related, Grandma died while sleeping and Grandpa died after somehow choking on his own tongue.

My point is that at Nichelle's age she definitely needs a caretaker if she has dimentia and had a stroke.

I suspect - suspect mind you - that people do not have in their minds an image of a 90 year old woman and instead are still imaging her as the Uhura they grew up with. People need to understand that the bulk of the Star Trek cast pre-Discovery is OLD. We are reaching the sad point in time where the majority of them will be leaving us.

Anyway, I really think there are two types of people in this conversation: those who have watched a relative who needs care and those who haven't. Very little prepares you for that moment in truth so I can appreciate why.
My Nan when she contracted Alzheimers forgot that she was violently allergic to certain brands of shampoo despite knowing about it for most of her life. One day she ended up with burns over her scalp and shoulders that put her in hospital. She also forgot about the stove being on multiple times and nearly got her face bitten off by a dog that she confused as her own.

[McAvoy]

My grandparents had dimentia. Early on, it was them forgetting if they ate or not of if they paid a bill or not. Around I think 2014 is where my parents and my aunt had to step in and take care of them. Hiring nurses (who should have been part of their original job at the retirement home) to make sure they ate and my Mom paid the bills. But unfortunately they also outlived their retirement savings and really couldn't afford to live there anymore. And it was a stupid amount of money to live there too. We had to help pay for that until 2017 Grandpa died and then 2018 Grandma died. Both dimentia related, Grandma died while sleeping and Grandpa died after somehow choking on his own tongue.

My point is that at Nichelle's age she definitely needs a caretaker if she has dimentia and had a stroke.

I suspect - suspect mind you - that people do not have in their minds an image of a 90 year old woman and instead are still imaging her as the Uhura they grew up with. People need to understand that the bulk of the Star Trek cast pre-Discovery is OLD. We are reaching the sad point in time where the majority of them will be leaving us.

Anyway, I really think there are two types of people in this conversation: those who have watched a relative who needs care and those who haven't. Very little prepares you for that moment in truth so I can appreciate why.
My Nan when she contracted Alzheimers forgot that she was violently allergic to certain brands of shampoo despite knowing about it for most of her life. One day she ended up with burns over her scalp and shoulders that put her in hospital. She also forgot about the stove being on multiple times and nearly got her face bitten off by a dog that she confused as her own.

Oh yeah, all of Voyagers cast are in their late 50's or well into their 60's. All of the children are fully grown adults like little Molly. Wil Wheaton is freaking 49 years old. About the same age Patrick Stewart was when he first became Picard.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Where did either me or clearspira say, that a disabilty is grounds for a suspension of rights per se? It was already qualified by the addage of "being unable to take care of themself or being a threat to others". By nature, an assessment has already been done, as otherwise the qualifier would not be met.

I wouldn't say that they justify the "removal" of rights, of which I believe clearspira proclaimed "they absolutely do!" With or without the exclamation mark.

Ideally, people's rights don't just get a line crossed through them once a critical point of disposition is observed. Personally I think, from what we saw of Britney Spears, is that while it's somewhat easy to justify why such provisional measures would be entered into, the ongoing nature of it seems to be unaccounted for. The rights are still duly obligated by the public, given that it's not really the fault of the person's concurrent faculties for their condition.

While I don't think that that should mean turning a blind eye to the situation, there has to be a public conscious that aims to guarantee that all affordable measures and attention be put forth in order to make the personal rights, as a socially manifested construct, virtually unassailable through public recourse.

[Riedquat]

Oh yeah, all of Voyagers cast are in their late 50's or well into their 60's. All of the children are fully grown adults like little Molly. Wil Wheaton is freaking 49 years old. About the same age Patrick Stewart was when he first became Picard.

Thanks for making me feel old! Looked them all up, Jennifer Lien's still in her 40s, which makes me feel a little less ancient. Still older than me though, albeit not by much.

[McAvoy]

Oh yeah, all of Voyagers cast are in their late 50's or well into their 60's. All of the children are fully grown adults like little Molly. Wil Wheaton is freaking 49 years old. About the same age Patrick Stewart was when he first became Picard.

Thanks for making me feel old! Looked them all up, Jennifer Lien's still in her 40s, which makes me feel a little less ancient. Still older than me though, albeit not by much.

Cirroc Lofton is 43. Avery Brooks is 73. Armin Shimerman is 72 though if look at him he doesn't look at that different aside from having white hair.

Remember that TNG will be celebrating its 35th anniversary soon. Enterprise first aired a little over 20 years ago.

[sayla0079]

Oh yeah, all of Voyagers cast are in their late 50's or well into their 60's. All of the children are fully grown adults like little Molly. Wil Wheaton is freaking 49 years old. About the same age Patrick Stewart was when he first became Picard.

Cirroc Lofton is 43. Avery Brooks is 73. Armin Shimerman is 72 though if look at him he doesn't look at that different aside from having white hair.

Yeah here's the Ds9 main cast besides those you mentioned (the ones still alive) and their ages:
Nana Vistor:64
Terry farrell:58
Colm Meany:68
Alexander Sidding:56
Micheal Dorn:69
Nicole Deboer:51

[sayla0079]

Remember that TNG will be celebrating its 35th anniversary soon. Enterprise first aired a little over 20 years ago.

I feel old I remember being almost five and watching the premiere of TNG with my mother.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Oh yeah, all of Voyagers cast are in their late 50's or well into their 60's. All of the children are fully grown adults like little Molly. Wil Wheaton is freaking 49 years old. About the same age Patrick Stewart was when he first became Picard.

Thanks for making me feel old! Looked them all up, Jennifer Lien's still in her 40s, which makes me feel a little less ancient. Still older than me though, albeit not by much.

Cirroc Lofton is 43.

He's practically dying.

[sayla0079]

He's still younger than some of the others so he has a while left.

[Riedquat]

Thanks for Cirroc Lofton - someone younger than me!