Texas Attorny General bans Pride

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Frustration wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:37 pm Well, you can demonstrate tolerance by acknowledging the concerns of people who don't agree with you and don't want your position preached in the public school system.
Learning to recognize and tolerate one tenth of the world's population isn't "preaching", and outright banning it is government censorship.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:49 pmone tenth of the world's population
See, you're already making counterfactual claims. And you think that people are going to teach the positions you'd prefer? The only real defense to schools teaching controversial topics is that what they're teaching are objective facts. I doubt your beliefs meet that standard.
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You're right, I was wrong about the percentage of the population being LGBTQ. Now that I've checked I see its, at least as far as adults in America, closer to 7%.

To be clear, are you saying that Pride should be banned, and that LGBTQ subjects should not be taught in public schools? Or are you just playing Devil's Advocate?
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Frustration wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:37 pm Well, you can demonstrate tolerance by acknowledging the concerns of people who don't agree with you and don't want your position preached in the public school system.
Tolerance isn't really the only issue here.

Sex education isn't a matter of progressive awareness and sex liberation lol. It's all about the safety etiquette of all sexual lifestyles that the students get exposed to. They talk about the complexities of each gender for instance so that the opposite is aware of where the other person is coming from on a social level. History also tends to be a part of sex education to help understand where common understandings come from itself.
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Good flipping grief. They have given up all pretenses, haven't they?
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Mickey_Rat15 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:36 pm In other words, Texas AG works to prevent government schools from observing quasi-religious celebrations. Zealots angered that their faith is being disestablished from government institutions.

What exactly is the argument for compelling a captive audience of other people's children to participate in an ideologically fraught event like Pride?
I mean by that logic school should be banned all together, after all what if people don't want their children to learn writing. That people should be literate is an ideologically fraught position, one in fact opposed by the great philosopher Socrates.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:36 pm You're right, I was wrong about the percentage of the population being LGBTQ. Now that I've checked I see its, at least as far as adults in America, closer to 7%.
In fairness, the official figures are probably wrong when you account for social stigma.
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Draco Dracul wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:09 am
Mickey_Rat15 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:36 pm In other words, Texas AG works to prevent government schools from observing quasi-religious celebrations. Zealots angered that their faith is being disestablished from government institutions.

What exactly is the argument for compelling a captive audience of other people's children to participate in an ideologically fraught event like Pride?
I mean by that logic school should be banned all together, after all what if people don't want their children to learn writing. That people should be literate is an ideologically fraught position, one in fact opposed by the great philosopher Socrates.
I feel like that was meant to be sarcastic but ending universal public schooling is a central part of the Texas GOP platform and Paxton is Republican. Seriously check the party website, "school choice" is the barely-euphemistic term they chose.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:07 pm
sayla0079 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:07 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:51 pm via NPR

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/25/10887437 ... btq-rights

Attorney's statement:
"By hosting 'Pride Week,' your district has, at best, undertaken a week-long instructional effort in human sexuality without parental consent. Or, worse, your district is cynically pushing a week-long indoctrination of your students that not only fails to obtain parental consent, but subtly cuts parents out of the loop," Paxton said. "Either way, you are breaking state law."
I don't see it as instruction in human sexuality I see pride week as helping people to learn Tolorance for those that have different ideals than them.
That's a bit reductive given the relevance of sex education in general and facets understandably pertaining to it concerning sexual orientation and gender manifestation.
You're right perhaps I worded that wrong. My point is that keeping pride involved things can help to teach tolerance to those too young to understand the sexuality aspect.
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sayla0079 wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:37 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:07 pm
sayla0079 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:07 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:51 pm via NPR

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/25/10887437 ... btq-rights

Attorney's statement:
"By hosting 'Pride Week,' your district has, at best, undertaken a week-long instructional effort in human sexuality without parental consent. Or, worse, your district is cynically pushing a week-long indoctrination of your students that not only fails to obtain parental consent, but subtly cuts parents out of the loop," Paxton said. "Either way, you are breaking state law."
I don't see it as instruction in human sexuality I see pride week as helping people to learn Tolorance for those that have different ideals than them.
That's a bit reductive given the relevance of sex education in general and facets understandably pertaining to it concerning sexual orientation and gender manifestation.
You're right perhaps I worded that wrong. My point is that it can help to teach tolerance to those too young to understand the sexuality aspect.
How does banning pride teach tolerance?
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