Texas Attorny General bans Pride

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Frustration wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:48 pm What if they commemorated a 'historical tragedy': the defeat of the Confederacy?
It's Texas. That's a Tuesday.

Edit: I remembered wrong, Confederate Heroes Day was a Wednesday this year.
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Frustration wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:48 pm
sayla0079 wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:53 pm Okay, let's say hypothetically they did a parade celebrating the passing of the Americans with disabilites act. Since that is potentially politically motivated would you think that shouldn't be taught in schools either?
Let's put it this way: if the ADA were repealed, and a school had a parade to celebrate, would you find that objectionable?

Considering I am disabled myself and have been since birth yes I would.
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Frustration wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:39 pm It's inherently problematic to put politically-charged content into publicly-funded schools: it's usually a winner-take-all situation, and people generally refuse to acknowledge the difficulties until something is taught they find personally objectionable.
Do you want Pride banned or are you just playing devil's advocate?
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A Devil's Advocate (in its original form) is presumed to be on the side of the Church and challenges cases for sainthood to ensure correct decisions are made.

I'm most certainly not on your side, because you're not on mine.
sayla0079 wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:42 pm Considering I am disabled myself and have been since birth yes I would.
The price for keeping political positions you disagree with kept out of schools is also keeping the ones you'd agree with out. Moral Universalism: it's what's for breakfast!
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The point is with me anyway Pride needs to stay in place just like ADA does.
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If Pride is removed like that what's next? Interracial relationships, ADA? Removing things like this can cause a cascade.
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Frustration wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:18 pm A Devil's Advocate (in its original form) is presumed to be on the side of the Church and challenges cases for sainthood to ensure correct decisions are made.

I'm most certainly not on your side, because you're not on mine.
sayla0079 wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:42 pm Considering I am disabled myself and have been since birth yes I would.
The price for keeping political positions you disagree with kept out of schools is also keeping the ones you'd agree with out. Moral Universalism: it's what's for breakfast!
Trying to ban Pride is a stronger political position than leaving it, not some neutral default. My assumption is that it's one you agree with and support, since you're arguing for it.

Also moral universalism is diametrically opposed to the "freedom for me but not for thee" politics expressed by banning Pride, it's honestly weird you would even bring it up.
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Frustration wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:39 pm It's inherently problematic to put politically-charged content into publicly-funded schools: it's usually a winner-take-all situation, and people generally refuse to acknowledge the difficulties until something is taught they find personally objectionable.
So do you think history should be banned from public schools because there is in fact no way to teach history in a politically neutral way.
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Frustration wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:18 pm The price for keeping political positions you disagree with kept out of schools is also keeping the ones you'd agree with out. Moral Universalism: it's what's for breakfast!
I mean kind of falls into a paradox when you run into someone like me who finds the attempt who sees schools attempting to be apolitical as that is an oppressive political position.
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Frustration wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:18 pm A Devil's Advocate (in its original form) is presumed to be on the side of the Church and challenges cases for sainthood to ensure correct decisions are made.

I'm most certainly not on your side, because you're not on mine.
sayla0079 wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:42 pm Considering I am disabled myself and have been since birth yes I would.
The price for keeping political positions you disagree with kept out of schools is also keeping the ones you'd agree with out. Moral Universalism: it's what's for breakfast!
I ask if you're a devil's advocate because I'm trying to figure out if your angle is really what you're actually presenting and if you have a dog in this fight.

Are you seriously arguing that anything "controversial" should be banned from schools because some taxpayer somewhere might object?
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