Texas Attorny General bans Pride

[McAvoy]

Every time I think society as a whole has softened with the gay community, then I see this

[sayla0079]

Every time I think society as a whole has softened with the gay community, then I see this

Same I have known a few people that were gay and they were nice people that don't deserve the crap they get thrown at them.

[McAvoy]

Every time I think society as a whole has softened with the gay community, then I see this

Same I have known a few people that were gay and they were nice people that don't deserve the crap they get thrown at them.

It's not what I meant.

All my life I have known gay people. They all were nice people. They just want to be treated like normal people. And the thing is they are until they say they are gay or treated like they are gay. As in feminine. I know guys who are gay that don't set off that gaydar.

What I actually meant, unlike the 90's where gay characters were not shown but implied. And actual onscreen gayness was greatly frowned upon. Or that gay jokes as being gay being negative was still normal and laughed at sort of thing.

Don't get me wrong, I am fully aware that nowadays showing a gay couple with a kid in a movie now considered woke. That's just stupid.

I do think as a society as whole has come a long way in the past 20 years in gay acceptance.

Nowadays I think it's more about the 'others' that get the attention.

[sayla0079]

Every time I think society as a whole has softened with the gay community, then I see this

Same I have known a few people that were gay and they were nice people that don't deserve the crap they get thrown at them.

It's not what I meant.

All my life I have known gay people. They all were nice people. They just want to be treated like normal people. And the thing is they are until they say they are gay or treated like they are gay. As in feminine. I know guys who are gay that don't set off that gaydar.

What I actually meant, unlike the 90's where gay characters were not shown but implied. And actual onscreen gayness was greatly frowned upon. Or that gay jokes as being gay being negative was still normal and laughed at sort of thing.

Don't get me wrong, I am fully aware that nowadays showing a gay couple with a kid in a movie now considered woke. That's just stupid.

I do think as a society as whole has come a long way in the past 20 years in gay acceptance.

Nowadays I think it's more about the 'others' that get the attention.

Oh my mistake I misunderstood your comment

[Frustration]

So do you think history should be banned from public schools because there is in fact no way to teach history in a politically neutral way.

I don't think anyone can completely free themselves from bias, but that's no excuse not to be as impartial and objective as you can. We can make a meaningful distinction between historical fact, historical speculation, and ideology masquerading as either.

[Frustration]

Are you seriously arguing that anything "controversial" should be banned from schools because some taxpayer somewhere might object?

Are you seriously asking whether I'm arguing a position I have earlier explicitly rejected?

Seriously?

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I'm just asking for a civil answer, for Hecate's sake.

[Draco Dracul]

So do you think history should be banned from public schools because there is in fact no way to teach history in a politically neutral way.

I don't think anyone can completely free themselves from bias, but that's no excuse not to be as impartial and objective as you can. We can make a meaningful distinction between historical fact, historical speculation, and ideology masquerading as either.

American history as taught in schools is propaganda meant to extol the value of the American empire. Like part of the iconoclast nature of the left is a reaction to a feeling that everything they have ever been taught about America is a lie.

[Mickey_Rat15]

In other words, Texas AG works to prevent government schools from observing quasi-religious celebrations. Zealots angered that their faith is being disestablished from government institutions.

What exactly is the argument for compelling a captive audience of other people's children to participate in an ideologically fraught event like Pride?

So you do not have an argument defending making other people's kids participate in celebrating a quasi-religious doctrine?

[Mickey_Rat15]

In other words, Texas AG works to prevent government schools from observing quasi-religious celebrations. Zealots angered that their faith is being disestablished from government institutions.

What exactly is the argument for compelling a captive audience of other people's children to participate in an ideologically fraught event like Pride?

I mean by that logic school should be banned all together, after all what if people don't want their children to learn writing. That people should be literate is an ideologically fraught position, one in fact opposed by the great philosopher Socrates.

That is an amazing stretch of logic. Teaching basic skills like reading, writing and mathematics are the same as celebrating an ideological doctrine, and if the public decides against the latter, then you cannot teach the former.

I do not see much difference between faculty leading a Pride Week in a public school and faculty leading the students in an explicity doctrinaire prayer.