Texas Attorny General bans Pride

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Pride represents the same "doctrine" they already make the kids swear to at the beginning of every day: Liberty and Justice for All.
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hammerofglass wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:02 pm Pride represents the same "doctrine" they already make the kids swear to at the beginning of every day: Liberty and Justice for All.
I dont think it's much of a lie to say that your country's enforced oath has been a pack of lies pretty much since forever. We wouldn't be having this, or indeed two thirds of the conversations on the News section of this forum, if there was any meaning to it at all.

If it makes you feel any better, every country on Earth fills its children with the same propaganda.
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To me,it seems LGBT is having the same problems people of other nationalities/races were having in the past: fear and unwarranted hatred because they were different, thus things like questionable laws.
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Mickey_Rat15 wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:13 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:48 pm
Mickey_Rat15 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:36 pm In other words, Texas AG works to prevent government schools from observing quasi-religious celebrations. Zealots angered that their faith is being disestablished from government institutions.

What exactly is the argument for compelling a captive audience of other people's children to participate in an ideologically fraught event like Pride?
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So you do not have an argument defending making other people's kids participate in celebrating a quasi-religious doctrine?
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I wouldn't classify Pride as specifically religious, and I find it civically misrepresentative to do so.
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clearspira wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:10 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:02 pm Pride represents the same "doctrine" they already make the kids swear to at the beginning of every day: Liberty and Justice for All.
I dont think it's much of a lie to say that your country's enforced oath has been a pack of lies pretty much since forever. We wouldn't be having this, or indeed two thirds of the conversations on the News section of this forum, if there was any meaning to it at all.

If it makes you feel any better, every country on Earth fills its children with the same propaganda.
Personally I always thought of it as more principles to which we aspire than meant as an actual description, but that might just me my "went to grade school in military bases" indoctrination talking.
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hammerofglass wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:02 pm Pride represents the same "doctrine" they already make the kids swear to at the beginning of every day: Liberty and Justice for All.
I've heard people argue very seriously that the Pledge of Allegiance is intended to do nothing but cause children to believe that oaths are meaningless. Why else would they repeat it, every day?

I also note that forcing children to recite the Pledge has been formally ruled to be unconstitutional. There are relatively few parents willing to make a fuss about it, but schools generally do not enforce its recitation - and there are still occasional examples of sometimes taking a district to court, and winning.

In the meantime, we have narrow-minded, self-righteous zealots fighting to impose their preferred ideological stance on all children in public schools. Some want "Pride", some want its absence.
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clearspira wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:10 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:02 pm Pride represents the same "doctrine" they already make the kids swear to at the beginning of every day: Liberty and Justice for All.
I dont think it's much of a lie to say that your country's enforced oath has been a pack of lies pretty much since forever. We wouldn't be having this, or indeed two thirds of the conversations on the News section of this forum, if there was any meaning to it at all.

If it makes you feel any better, every country on Earth fills its children with the same propaganda.
On the contrary though, it's not exactly for nothing. Reducing the prospect of life, liberty, and opportunity to a cultural reflection of inadequacy is also true of virtually any country. Watching a democracy champion the rights of an individual in the face of and ultimately beneficial for the whole isn't unfounded and is not just pie in the sky thinking.
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Frustration wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 6:17 pm
In the meantime, we have narrow-minded, self-righteous zealots fighting to impose their preferred ideological stance on all children in public schools. Some want "Pride", some want its absence.
This is some BothSidesism nonsense. It is not Narrow-minded or zealotry to allow schools to have pride. It is to ban it from a position of government authority. Seriously, what do you even think is going on at schools that have pride that you find so objectionable?
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So when are they going to ban Black History month in school?
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