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clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:33 am
Regardless of what the actual reasoning behind this decision was, the fact is that Disney's actions to secure its copyright and property over the years is worthy of a gangster film. No corporation should have this level of power. We are almost talking a country within a country here. Like the Vatican.
I dunno how true this is, it might be complete bollocks, but I read somewhere that Disney's self-governing status is so strong that it could do anything from build its own nuclear reactor to having its own standing army.
What type of rules do you expect for Disney to just hand over copyright protections to the fans though?
There is a time limit on copyright. If you wrote a book, even a great book, in a 100 years or so it won't be yours/your family's anymore. It'll be public domain.
clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:00 pm
Not Disney though.
Well Steamboat Willie has fallen into the public domain. Though if the Conan Doyle estate is any indication (see Enola Holmes, Great Ace Attorney Chronicles), former IP holders can still be a thorn in the side of anyone who tries to make a derivative work.
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clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:33 am
Regardless of what the actual reasoning behind this decision was, the fact is that Disney's actions to secure its copyright and property over the years is worthy of a gangster film.
No argument here. Disney lawyers are the reason that copyright law is so effed up now.
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clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:33 am
Regardless of what the actual reasoning behind this decision was, the fact is that Disney's actions to secure its copyright and property over the years is worthy of a gangster film. No corporation should have this level of power. We are almost talking a country within a country here. Like the Vatican.
I dunno how true this is, it might be complete bollocks, but I read somewhere that Disney's self-governing status is so strong that it could do anything from build its own nuclear reactor to having its own standing army.
What type of rules do you expect for Disney to just hand over copyright protections to the fans though?
If it wasn't for the massive power and greed of Disney, Snow White and other properties would be public domain by now. Current copyright law was written to benefit the Disney franchise.
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
— Un Lun Dun, China Mieville
clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:33 am
Regardless of what the actual reasoning behind this decision was, the fact is that Disney's actions to secure its copyright and property over the years is worthy of a gangster film. No corporation should have this level of power. We are almost talking a country within a country here. Like the Vatican.
I dunno how true this is, it might be complete bollocks, but I read somewhere that Disney's self-governing status is so strong that it could do anything from build its own nuclear reactor to having its own standing army.
What type of rules do you expect for Disney to just hand over copyright protections to the fans though?
If it wasn't for the massive power and greed of Disney, Snow White and other properties would be public domain by now. Current copyright law was written to benefit the Disney franchise.
Snow White is trademarked by Disney, which isn't exactly the same thing. Since Snow White the Disney movie has been around for so long, that means that you can't come up with another video set called Snow White to sell in stores.
You can make a story out of the original German fairy tale, but it has to steer clear of most any semblance distinguishing Disney's version from consideration of the original tale. It's like academic integrity to prevent plagiarism in edited academic works.
clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:33 am
Regardless of what the actual reasoning behind this decision was, the fact is that Disney's actions to secure its copyright and property over the years is worthy of a gangster film. No corporation should have this level of power. We are almost talking a country within a country here. Like the Vatican.
I dunno how true this is, it might be complete bollocks, but I read somewhere that Disney's self-governing status is so strong that it could do anything from build its own nuclear reactor to having its own standing army.
What type of rules do you expect for Disney to just hand over copyright protections to the fans though?
If it wasn't for the massive power and greed of Disney, Snow White and other properties would be public domain by now. Current copyright law was written to benefit the Disney franchise.
Snow White is trademarked by Disney, which isn't exactly the same thing. Since Snow White the Disney movie has been around for so long, that means that you can't come up with another video set called Snow White to sell in stores.
You can make a story out of the original German fairy tale, but it has to steer clear of most any semblance distinguishing Disney's version from consideration of the original tale. It's like academic integrity to prevent plagiarism in edited academic works.
I'm talking about their Snow White movie, specifically. That and others should have entered the public domain by now but their lobbyists basically decide how copyright laws get written.
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
— Un Lun Dun, China Mieville
clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:33 am
Regardless of what the actual reasoning behind this decision was, the fact is that Disney's actions to secure its copyright and property over the years is worthy of a gangster film. No corporation should have this level of power. We are almost talking a country within a country here. Like the Vatican.
I dunno how true this is, it might be complete bollocks, but I read somewhere that Disney's self-governing status is so strong that it could do anything from build its own nuclear reactor to having its own standing army.
What type of rules do you expect for Disney to just hand over copyright protections to the fans though?
There is a time limit on copyright. If you wrote a book, even a great book, in a 100 years or so it won't be yours/your family's anymore. It'll be public domain.
Not Disney though.
I think you're a bit confused, copyright limits apply to Disney just as much as they do everyone else. Disney is in fact responsible for why copyright is so outrageously long.
clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:33 am
Regardless of what the actual reasoning behind this decision was, the fact is that Disney's actions to secure its copyright and property over the years is worthy of a gangster film. No corporation should have this level of power. We are almost talking a country within a country here. Like the Vatican.
I dunno how true this is, it might be complete bollocks, but I read somewhere that Disney's self-governing status is so strong that it could do anything from build its own nuclear reactor to having its own standing army.
What type of rules do you expect for Disney to just hand over copyright protections to the fans though?
If it wasn't for the massive power and greed of Disney, Snow White and other properties would be public domain by now. Current copyright law was written to benefit the Disney franchise.
Snow White is trademarked by Disney, which isn't exactly the same thing. Since Snow White the Disney movie has been around for so long, that means that you can't come up with another video set called Snow White to sell in stores.
You can make a story out of the original German fairy tale, but it has to steer clear of most any semblance distinguishing Disney's version from consideration of the original tale. It's like academic integrity to prevent plagiarism in edited academic works.
I'm talking about their Snow White movie, specifically. That and others should have entered the public domain by now but their lobbyists basically decide how copyright laws get written.
Right, the specifically crafted product that was made directly in their house. I'm not seeing any reason to just appeal to collective interests of the public over a specific product. Especially in the case of a luxury entertainment good, though that's more of a gray area.
