Math books banned for Critical Race Theory

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Re: Math books banned for Critical Race Theory

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Call me an old fashioned man with old fashioned ideas, but as far as I am concerned, a maths book should have only one thing in it: maths.

Now, if it really is just a case of ''Mohammad and Iqbal have five apples'' as implied earlier, then being against that is dumb and those proposing this should feel dumb. But if there actually is politics in these textbooks then I am 100% in favour of a ban. Say it after me boys and girls: arithmetic, calculus, algebra, trigonometry, binary, the times tables. These things belong in a maths textbook. The history of slavery or what the duck else doesn't.
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Notably, the books had biographies for multiple black math teachers and math geniuses.

Apparently THIS was the objectional content.

Can't let people know black people have accomplishments.
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CharlesPhipps wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:53 pm Notably, the books had biographies for multiple black math teachers and math geniuses.

Apparently THIS was the objectional content.

Can't let people know black people have accomplishments.
If that's all it is then I agree: its a dumb thing to complain about... as long as ALL RACES were getting representation in the biography section of these books. If its just a random list of black people then that is political.
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clearspira wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:49 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:53 pm Notably, the books had biographies for multiple black math teachers and math geniuses.

Apparently THIS was the objectional content.

Can't let people know black people have accomplishments.
If that's all it is then I agree: its a dumb thing to complain about... as long as ALL RACES were getting representation in the biography section of these books. If its just a random list of black people then that is political.
Yes because heaven forbid we let one group of people get some attention then another, and another. No we have to either have minority get all the love at once or none at all. Not like we could pace it until it part of our culture irreversibly.
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CharlesPhipps wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:53 pm Notably, the books had biographies for multiple black math teachers and math geniuses.

Apparently THIS was the objectional content.

Can't let people know black people have accomplishments.
I forgot about that. It has been awhile but i do remember seeing those biographies when I was in school.

Weird how it was like that when I was in school in the 90's yet now its getting attention now, right?
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Thebestoftherest wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:53 am
clearspira wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:49 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:53 pm Notably, the books had biographies for multiple black math teachers and math geniuses.

Apparently THIS was the objectional content.

Can't let people know black people have accomplishments.
If that's all it is then I agree: its a dumb thing to complain about... as long as ALL RACES were getting representation in the biography section of these books. If its just a random list of black people then that is political.
Yes because heaven forbid we let one group of people get some attention then another, and another. No we have to either have minority get all the love at once or none at all. Not like we could pace it until it part of our culture irreversibly.
The moment you deliberately pick one race over another is the moment that you are not actually celebrating their achievements you are celebrating their skin colour. That's political and it has no place in a maths textbook. Or a science textbook either come to that. And if that is what these books are doing then I have no problem in declaring that they should be removed.
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Yes because wanting to get small achievements is foolish, while trying to help decrease the negative those people face should be everything at once.
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clearspira wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:49 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:53 pm Notably, the books had biographies for multiple black math teachers and math geniuses.

Apparently THIS was the objectional content.

Can't let people know black people have accomplishments.
If that's all it is then I agree: its a dumb thing to complain about... as long as ALL RACES were getting representation in the biography section of these books. If its just a random list of black people then that is political.
Okay, I'm going to pretend the assumption here isn't incredibly dumb "everything is racist" logic.

The reason the black examples were there were because....they were famous mathematicians.

Jesus.
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CharlesPhipps wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:51 pm
clearspira wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:49 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:53 pm Notably, the books had biographies for multiple black math teachers and math geniuses.

Apparently THIS was the objectional content.

Can't let people know black people have accomplishments.
If that's all it is then I agree: its a dumb thing to complain about... as long as ALL RACES were getting representation in the biography section of these books. If its just a random list of black people then that is political.
Okay, I'm going to pretend the assumption here isn't incredibly dumb "everything is racist" logic.

The reason the black examples were there were because....they were famous mathematicians.

Jesus.
Problem is that it would be short list compared the amount of European/Ancient Mediterranean mathematicians. With a scattering of Middle Eastern ones as well.

Lets not forget that out number system is Arabic. Last thing you want to do is write 1,563,123,894 x 789,321 in Roman numerals.
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Re: Math books banned for Critical Race Theory

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CharlesPhipps wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:51 pm
clearspira wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:49 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:53 pm Notably, the books had biographies for multiple black math teachers and math geniuses.

Apparently THIS was the objectional content.

Can't let people know black people have accomplishments.
If that's all it is then I agree: its a dumb thing to complain about... as long as ALL RACES were getting representation in the biography section of these books. If its just a random list of black people then that is political.
Okay, I'm going to pretend the assumption here isn't incredibly dumb "everything is racist" logic.

The reason the black examples were there were because....they were famous mathematicians.

Jesus.
You are either wilfully or innocently ignoring what I said so lets proceed under the second assumption and try again.

If you have a list of five white mathematicians and five black mathematicians then that is what is called equality. There is no way under this scenario you can infer bias, politics, or racism.
If however you have a list of no white mathematicians and ten black mathematicians then that is a political decision that you have made to promote one race over another.

The former: good.
The latter: bad.
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