Frustration wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:28 amI think many people view polyamory as a system for justifying cheating. I'm particularly thinking of the episode in the second season of Doom Patrol where swinging is presented as that.
It's not popular, it's widely viewed with suspicion, and it likely wouldn't be to the financial advantage of RPG creators to specifically include it unless it was a key feature of a game's concept.
And for good reason. Will and Jada are a very good example of this. What tends to happen is that these relationships are very one sided in that one partner will suggest it and the other will go along with it. And you have very little say in it legally - your only choice being to lose half your shit.
Even in relationships where both partners are equally up for it, the fact of the matter is that the majority of human societies evolved down monogamous lines for a reason: jealousy. It always sets in eventually. Maybe he has a bigger dick, maybe she has bigger boobs, maybe one is showing more attention to the other, maybe one makes the other scream louder. I would be very interested to know just how many of these poly relationships end up with wife/husband number 1 running off with wife/husband number 2.
Honestly I don't think I'd want to see much polyamory in most RPGs, or at least RPGs in the style of Bioware or Obsidian or so on. Giving that sort of latitude to players of that sort of game almost certainly ends in just collecting romances as trophies which plays into all the stereotypes of why people mistrust polyamory in the first place.
I'd want to see writers try to actually tackle fixed polyamorous relationships and learn how to navigate that before even trying to write them to account for player input in a significant way.
CmdrKing wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:44 pm
Honestly I don't think I'd want to see much polyamory in most RPGs, or at least RPGs in the style of Bioware or Obsidian or so on. Giving that sort of latitude to players of that sort of game almost certainly ends in just collecting romances as trophies which plays into all the stereotypes of why people mistrust polyamory in the first place.
I'd want to see writers try to actually tackle fixed polyamorous relationships and learn how to navigate that before even trying to write them to account for player input in a significant way.
I do kind of wonder if one with Tali and Garrus was planned for ME3 and got cut. Not sure about Garrus, but it is teased that Tali is interested if he is romanced.
I haven't played Jade Empire for a while but wasn't the "poly" option just the Dawn Star romance except you have a threesome with the princess once?
CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:53 am
I think it shouldn't be for every romance like Fallout 4 where I married three separate characters.
However, maybe one possible permutation of the choices.
I actually covered this in my response to TGLS where I made the point that, if there had been a PM option in DA2 I could only see it working with Isabella, Merrill and Hawke as well as Fenris, Isabella and Hawke but couldn't see any other possible PM working. Sebastian wouldn't want it, Fenris and Merrill can barely stand each other and I doubt ANY of the companions being in a relationship where Anders was included (even Isabella can't stand him and she's just as much of a sex addict as he is).
Basically I would like a PM option, but not every option has to include a PM option. Like, I would be okay with a Inquisitor, Dorian and Iron Bull option but a Dorian, Inquisitor and Sera option wouldn't make any sense just based on the sexuality of the characters along with the fact that Sera is more of a annoying sister to Dorian.
CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:53 am
I think it shouldn't be for every romance like Fallout 4 where I married three separate characters.
However, maybe one possible permutation of the choices.
Funny thing about Fallout 4 was that I was probably one of the more diverse games I've ever played. How many games let you put a dress on a guy? It's poly friendly, trans friendly, gay friendly.
I just don't think it comes across in the game very well as this applies only to the main character. Seems to me Bethesda went "we want to be LGBT friendly... but we can't have anyone else other than the pc be openly LGBT. That'll be controversial." And so you have this weird scenario where you are this guy in an evening dress and being in love with five companions but everyone else you meet is completely cis and straight.