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McAvoy wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 6:55 am
Nealithi wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 6:01 am
McAvoy wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 4:01 am Not that old. Though old enough to be stuck between Gen X and Gen Y.
Then feel young as I wave my cane around going "Back in my day". ;)


Also I can never get the hang of the Gen this and that so I just kinda nod about it.
Gen Z is the generation that did the whole swallowing tide pods thing.
I've always had a thing for reading Darwin awards, and I have to say that Gen Z do not have the monopoly on doing stupid shit for Likes. I read one years ago about a guy who choked to death on a cue ball trying to impress his mates in a bar. Apparently, he had the "party trick" of being able to regurgitate it on command. Well... that day he didn't suffice to say.

The only difference between "our day" and now is that the kids film it for billions to see.
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McAvoy wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 6:55 am As far as generation periods. Born in 1984 puts me in the middle of Gen X and Gen Y. Gen Y is named Millenials btw. Gen Z is the generation that did the whole swallowing tide pods thing.
I hate to put it like this, but you're not correct. If you go by Pew, X goes from 1965-1980, and Millennial goes from 1981-1996. If you go by Strauss-Howe, Gen X is 1961-1981 and Millennial is 1982-2004. In either case that puts you rather firmly on one side.

If the idea that being lumped into the same group as someone born a decade later annoys you, you have hit the nail on the head as to why generations are not a very useful concept.
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clearspira wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 12:58 pm
McAvoy wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 6:55 am
Nealithi wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 6:01 am
McAvoy wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 4:01 am Not that old. Though old enough to be stuck between Gen X and Gen Y.
Then feel young as I wave my cane around going "Back in my day". ;)


Also I can never get the hang of the Gen this and that so I just kinda nod about it.
Gen Z is the generation that did the whole swallowing tide pods thing.
I've always had a thing for reading Darwin awards, and I have to say that Gen Z do not have the monopoly on doing stupid shit for Likes. I read one years ago about a guy who choked to death on a cue ball trying to impress his mates in a bar. Apparently, he had the "party trick" of being able to regurgitate it on command. Well... that day he didn't suffice to say.

The only difference between "our day" and now is that the kids film it for billions to see.
This is a man that should have been renowned for his abilities, yet you mock him. He might have ended up inventing the longer lasting lightbulb.
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TGLS wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 5:54 pm
McAvoy wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 6:55 am As far as generation periods. Born in 1984 puts me in the middle of Gen X and Gen Y. Gen Y is named Millenials btw. Gen Z is the generation that did the whole swallowing tide pods thing.
I hate to put it like this, but you're not correct. If you go by Pew, X goes from 1965-1980, and Millennial goes from 1981-1996. If you go by Strauss-Howe, Gen X is 1961-1981 and Millennial is 1982-2004. In either case that puts you rather firmly on one side.

If the idea that being lumped into the same group as someone born a decade later annoys you, you have hit the nail on the head as to why generations are not a very useful concept.
For me, Millennial is ''were you still at school in the year 2000?'' (Assuming 1980s to mid 1990s birthdate)
I think that's an easier definition.
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TGLS wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 5:54 pm
McAvoy wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 6:55 am As far as generation periods. Born in 1984 puts me in the middle of Gen X and Gen Y. Gen Y is named Millenials btw. Gen Z is the generation that did the whole swallowing tide pods thing.
I hate to put it like this, but you're not correct. If you go by Pew, X goes from 1965-1980, and Millennial goes from 1981-1996. If you go by Strauss-Howe, Gen X is 1961-1981 and Millennial is 1982-2004. In either case that puts you rather firmly on one side.

If the idea that being lumped into the same group as someone born a decade later annoys you, you have hit the nail on the head as to why generations are not a very useful concept.
And those date ranges are why I have trouble. I would have logically thought Millennial was born 2000- to some later point.
Though according to the other dates I am Gen X. . I guess I have to go look up what my opinions are supposed to be. :)
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Understanding generations is useful for understanding trends.
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TGLS wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 5:54 pm
McAvoy wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 6:55 am As far as generation periods. Born in 1984 puts me in the middle of Gen X and Gen Y. Gen Y is named Millenials btw. Gen Z is the generation that did the whole swallowing tide pods thing.
I hate to put it like this, but you're not correct. If you go by Pew, X goes from 1965-1980, and Millennial goes from 1981-1996. If you go by Strauss-Howe, Gen X is 1961-1981 and Millennial is 1982-2004. In either case that puts you rather firmly on one side.

If the idea that being lumped into the same group as someone born a decade later annoys you, you have hit the nail on the head as to why generations are not a very useful concept.
I should clarify that those born around when I was, are given a term Xetenial. A hybrid of both Gen X and Gen Y.

The tide pod remark is just stating something too many people mistake for the Millenials. Too many attribute Millenials as the Gen Z when it reality, most of us are old enough to have Gen Z or Gen A kids.

Every generation has its idiots. Every generation thinks it's better than the previous one.
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Nealithi wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 1:31 am
TGLS wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 5:54 pm
McAvoy wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 6:55 am As far as generation periods. Born in 1984 puts me in the middle of Gen X and Gen Y. Gen Y is named Millenials btw. Gen Z is the generation that did the whole swallowing tide pods thing.
I hate to put it like this, but you're not correct. If you go by Pew, X goes from 1965-1980, and Millennial goes from 1981-1996. If you go by Strauss-Howe, Gen X is 1961-1981 and Millennial is 1982-2004. In either case that puts you rather firmly on one side.

If the idea that being lumped into the same group as someone born a decade later annoys you, you have hit the nail on the head as to why generations are not a very useful concept.
And those date ranges are why I have trouble. I would have logically thought Millennial was born 2000- to some later point.
That's cause the people who came up with the name "Millennial" (Strauss-Howe) were also promoting the concept of a cyclical history. Millennials were the ones who would come of age in the crisis that would happen in the early 21st century, because they arbitrarily drew a line between the American Revolution, the American Civil War, Great Depression/WW2, and carried it on into the future. Note how their line missed tons of other crises, like Vietnam, Korea, WW1, War of 1812, Stagflation, the panic of 1873, 1907, etc.
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Well Generation X is mostly absent from discussion past its influence on the 90's and its anarchical flair from being born in the shadows. Baby boomers were a social phenomenon while the social structure in the form of the new deal that they were raised in was incredibly transformative. As far as WWI is concerned, America's influence in the carnation of that is rather dubious, as we tend to agree about Vietnam.

Really, the patriot act and Guantanamo bay, along with the false pretenses of the Iraq war are arguably more prolific in terms of American crisis than Vietnam or WWI.
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The whole idea of these generations seem fraught with logical problems anyway. I, as an early Millennial, went to Primary school with computers that had floppy disks and green writing on the screen. And when I went to Secondary? I knew like five kids with a mobile phone. And they were the richest, coolest kids in school. I also remember the first DVD that I ever watched and I thought it was space age tech. No more rewinding videotape for me! Now i can ''jump'' to anywhere I please and pause the film without those wavy lines!

How does that compare to a late Millennial who saw their teens in the 2000s? The childhood of a 90s kid has far more in common with that of an 80s kid than a 00s kid.

I'm also not sure that you can compare an early Zoomer with a late Zoomer given the whole ''school from home'' bump that Covid brought.
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