Book of Boba Fett Thread

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Well I mean he fought and lost to Dash Rendar... Dash just had a shitty jet pack that's like 1/8 as fast as Boba's and some rather lackluster heatsinking mini missiles or something. Boba almost lost Slave1 there.

Where was that?

On Tatooine I believe.

I mean what book or series? I didn't know he was a part of Disney Wars now.

Shadows of the Empire, which isn't canon apparently but still happened.

Being the player character does come with a certain inherent advantage.

Well maybe if Boba Fett had a better written personality then he'd get his own game instead of this.

[hammerofglass]

Well I mean he fought and lost to Dash Rendar... Dash just had a shitty jet pack that's like 1/8 as fast as Boba's and some rather lackluster heatsinking mini missiles or something. Boba almost lost Slave1 there.

Where was that?

On Tatooine I believe.

I mean what book or series? I didn't know he was a part of Disney Wars now.

Shadows of the Empire, which isn't canon apparently but still happened.

Being the player character does come with a certain inherent advantage.

Well maybe if Boba Fett had a better written personality then he'd get his own game instead of this.

*Hat over heart for canceled 1313*. In another timeline...

[Thebestoftherest]

I blame EA hopefully we can get people who actually wants to make game get the star wars liscense

[MithrandirOlorin]

I'd watched the first three episodes of The Book of Boba Fett when they aired, but then watched the rest yesterday, and I enjoyed them a great deal.

It's basically season 2.5 of The Mandalorian, both stylistically and ultimately narratively as well. I liked both seasons of The Mandalorian, they are doing back to what influenced Lucas in the first place, classic Westerns and Samurai films, with even the basic premise owing a debt to Lone Wolf and Cub which is probably the most influential classic Manga to still not have an Anime adaptation, but it had some Live Action films in the 70s.

So the fanservice these shows provide isn't even just Star Wars fanservice, in Book of Boba Fett we got to see a classic Sergio Leone style showdown between Raylan Givens and Cad Bane, a character no one ever expected would appear in Live Action at all.

Book of Boba Fett goes beyond either season of Mandalorian in the fan service department. There is a type of Star Wars who's always loved to express annoyance at Boba Fett's popularity in the fandom when he never even did much, and I'd mostly been one of them, giving him his own show naturally seems to be the embodiment of what those fans don't like. But you see Boba's whole Arc in this show is acknowledging that he was a useless loser during the time period we see in episodes 4-6 and seeking to be something better now.

When episodes 5 and 6 aired there was a bunch of whining on Twitter about "Boba Fett's barely in his own show", that's two out of 7 episodes one of which he still has a lot of screen time in by the final act. Any TV series needs to be ultimately an ensemble no matter how you named it. But that title, The Book of Boba Fett. is clearly modeled after things like books of The Bible, there are books in The Bible where the title character is absent for significant chunks, Daniel isn't in Chapter 3 of The Book of Daniel, Samuel dies less then half way though the two volume text he's named after, meanwhile Mark and Luke don't appear in their books at all besides a couple debatable cameos.

I liked Dawson's Ashoka here more here then I did her Mandalorian episode, her little moment with R2 and telling Luke "so much like your father" sell me that this is that character I love from those cartoon brought to Live Action more then any exposition dumb describing the plot of a Clone Wars or Rebels episode could. I am more excited for her own show now and I kind of hope she a guest in the Obi-Won show too.

"But there are scenes that are basically just exposition dumps describing Clone Wars and Rebels episodes for the fans who only watch Live Action stuff" and yes I enjoy that stuff too, it's just not the key to making me buy a new actor portraying the same characters. Cad Bane and Boba Fett seem to be describing some history they had together on The Clone Wars, but I haven't seen those episodes, and as someone who hasn't I can assure you it doesn't makes the exchange impossible to follow, they are old Bounty Hunter with some history, just like a lot of scenes on classic Westerns.

A good chunk of this show's Fan Service was specifically to Episode 1, finally returning to Mos Espa and the Naboo Star Fighter, like they're trying to apologize for the lack of Prequel references in the Disney Trilogy, like it's trying to be the Episode VII Prequel fans wanted.

But those superficial ties to Episode I compliment that the show is also revisiting the core theme of Episode I, the different disparate people groups on a planet being forced to come together agaisnt an evil Capitalist threat, realizing that they form a Symbiant Circle and what happens to one will effect the others.

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[Lazerlike42]

When episodes 5 and 6 aired there was a bunch of whining on Twitter about "Boba Fett's barely in his own show", that's two out of 7 episodes one of which he still has a lot of screen time in by the final act. Any TV series needs to be ultimately an ensemble no matter how you named it. But that title, The Book of Boba Fett. is clearly modeled after things like books of The Bible, there are books in The Bible where the title character is absent for significant chunks, Daniel isn't in Chapter 3 of The Book of Daniel, Samuel dies less then half way though the two volume text he's named after, meanwhile Mark and Luke don't appear in their books at all besides a couple debatable cameos.

I don't remember much complaining per se about Fett not even being in his own show (and I do think it was two full episodes - I'd suggest going back and taking another look at the one you're saying he gets a lot of screen time in, because really he didn't). What I do remember is a lot of people noting that he's not in his own show for those two episodes, but people were generally okay with this and thought the show was better of for it, which I do think says something about how successful they were with the Boba Fett character.

You yourself are saying it was sortof like The Mandalorian 2.5, a sentiment I'd agree with. The "problem" is that the series was supposed to be Boba Fett's, and so if it can best be described in the context of another series altogether, that's rough. I agree that series are always going to be ensemble pieces generally speaking, but for instance you didn't see the Mandalorian being a show about some other characters. Heck, even in the "backdoor pilot" episode for the Boba Fett series itself, the Mandalorian was still about the Mandalorian and Grogu first and foremost, and that's almost saying something because it's not unusual at all for series to do these episodes which are basically trying to be pilots for other series and usually the main cast do take a backseat in such episodes.

You also mentioned fan-service, but I think fan-service is fine. I have no problem with it and the fan-service that was in Boba Fett was fine with me.

Here's the thing: I'm a person who really didn't like the Boba Fett series in the end, but the reason isn't any of the stuff you've mentioned here. The fan service was fine. If they took a whole episode or two to focus on the Mandalorian or Luke or whoever else and I liked the series otherwise, I wouldn't think much of it besides likely joking about the lack of the main character; it wouldn't be a complaint, though. Ultimately, my problem with The Book of Boba Fett is just that I didn't find it entertaining. With The Mandalorian I was always waiting on baited breath for the next episode to release and most episodes I was watching on the edge of my seat. That IS how I felt during the two "Mandalorian episodes," but otherwise I honestly felt likethis series was a real slog to get through. I was not really waiting with much anticipation for each subsequent episode, and when I did sit down to watch each one I just didn't find them that engaging - again, other than the Mandalorian episodes. I was honestly almost watching the clock waiting for these episodes to finish.

I really do think the biggest problem was that Boba Fett was the least interesting character in his own show, and ensemble or not, that becomes a problem. It wasn't just the Mandalorian, it was everyone else, too. For example, when Shand went to assassinate the mayor an other big wigs towards the end of the last episode, it really stuck out as just being far more interesting than anything I'd seen Boba Fett do. Meanwhile, throughout most of the series she was also "stealing his thunder" because literally almost every time Fett wanted to do anything, Fennec Shand was there standing behind him disagreeing and approximately 100% of the time he basically rolled over and said - in the most boring way possible - "ok, we'll do it that way instead." That was the problem with the series I had - it was basically a long drawn out exercise in everyone else showing up Boba Fett - and I say this as someone who's NOT some big Boba Fett fanatic who was looking forward to the show because of him. I just wanted to see some good Star Wars regardless of the characters who were in focus, but the way they handled Fett was still sufficiently bad as to really spoil it for me.

[MithrandirOlorin]

Batman is always the least interesting character in a Batman story.

[Thebestoftherest]

I blame the fact that what the show is supposed to be about Boba Fett becoming a crime lord and dealing with the local politics is constantly put in the back ground, we didn't need like three or four episodes on him hanging with tusken raiders, we didn't need two episodes about Mando, what we did need was learned how the city works and more about all the major factions.

[McAvoy]

Ehh. The problem is that we already got another Boba Fett story in the Mandalorian. A bounty hunter story.

They had to do it differently so it's just not another Mandalorian show. By the looks of it they struggled with it since we got two episodes of the Mandalorian himself.

I think they should have just done a Firefly ripoff for Star Wars.

[Lazerlike42]

Ehh. The problem is that we already got another Boba Fett story in the Mandalorian. A bounty hunter story.

They had to do it differently so it's just not another Mandalorian show. By the looks of it they struggled with it since we got two episodes of the Mandalorian himself.

I think they should have just done a Firefly ripoff for Star Wars.

I think the idea of "Boba Fett as crime-lord" could have worked just fine, but the problem is that we didn't get Boba Fett as crime-lord: we got "Boba Fett as philanthropist."

Ok, so that's an exaggeration, of course, and truth be told given my personal moral outlook I'm entirely okay with the idea of trying to "reform" Fett rather than have a true villain as a protagonist, but I think they just managed to do it in the way that made his character look as weak as possible. The problem as I saw it wasn't that that he started trying to be a more honorable "good guy lite", but that it was done in a way that made the character seem to lose all his strengths and to take a back seat to the opinions of, well, pretty much everyone. Heck, it seems like the majority of the scenes with Fett and Fennec can be summed up as,

Fett: "Do X."
Shand: "No."
Fett: "Okay."

[McAvoy]

Ehh. The problem is that we already got another Boba Fett story in the Mandalorian. A bounty hunter story.

They had to do it differently so it's just not another Mandalorian show. By the looks of it they struggled with it since we got two episodes of the Mandalorian himself.

I think they should have just done a Firefly ripoff for Star Wars.

I think the idea of "Boba Fett as crime-lord" could have worked just fine, but the problem is that we didn't get Boba Fett as crime-lord: we got "Boba Fett as philanthropist."

Ok, so that's an exaggeration, of course, and truth be told given my personal moral outlook I'm entirely okay with the idea of trying to "reform" Fett rather than have a true villain as a protagonist, but I think they just managed to do it in the way that made his character look as weak as possible. The problem as I saw it wasn't that that he started trying to be a more honorable "good guy lite", but that it was done in a way that made the character seem to lose all his strengths and to take a back seat to the opinions of, well, pretty much everyone. Heck, it seems like the majority of the scenes with Fett and Fennec can be summed up as,

Fett: "Do X."
Shand: "No."
Fett: "Okay."

That is the real problem with the series. Boba says the things of what he wants to do and to be. But how it all played out just made him look weak and motivations thin.

Maybe if they skipped Luke and Grogu Training Montage episode, they could have expanded on it.