Obi-Wan Kenobi on Disney+

For all topics regarding speculative fiction of every stripe. Otherwise known as the Geek Cave.
stryke
Captain
Posts: 655
Joined: Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:42 am

Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi on Disney+

Post by stryke »

To save me a looooot of typing try watching CellSpex's review of the live action remake that touches on a reasonable number of them as part of the compare and contrast she does between the two films. Well worth a watch anyway as it's a good vid.

If you need more then as I mentioned there's a ton of other video essays out there that go over them so you're spoiled for choice on that front.
User avatar
Frustration
Captain
Posts: 1607
Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:16 pm

Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi on Disney+

Post by Frustration »

Name one.
"Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two equals four. If that is granted, all else follows." -- George Orwell, 1984
User avatar
TGLS
Captain
Posts: 2931
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:16 pm

Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi on Disney+

Post by TGLS »

Frustration wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:42 pm Name one.
Here's five.
Image
"I know what you’re thinking now. You’re thinking 'Oh my god, that’s treating other people with respect gone mad!'"
When I am writing in this font, I am writing in my moderator voice.
Spam-desu
User avatar
Riedquat
Captain
Posts: 1905
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:02 am

Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi on Disney+

Post by Riedquat »

That a plot hole is bad is about as factual as you can get for a review of a story (short of just baldly spelling out what happens). How much that matters is subjective - how much anything actually matters is subjective (facts are just plain facts, with neither merit nor badness, it's subjectivitey that ultimately determines whether they matter or not) - but there are some subjective views that are more commonly held than others.
User avatar
Frustration
Captain
Posts: 1607
Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:16 pm

Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi on Disney+

Post by Frustration »

I can't take that site seriously after reading its first 'plothole'. What, the reviewer has never seen unseaonably early snow? Indeed, the very fact that a cold snap wasn't anticipated is part of why Maurice was sent home that way.
"Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two equals four. If that is granted, all else follows." -- George Orwell, 1984
User avatar
TGLS
Captain
Posts: 2931
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:16 pm

Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi on Disney+

Post by TGLS »

Frustration wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:13 pm I can't take that site seriously after reading its first 'plothole'.
Alright, here's 10 from a different website.
Image
"I know what you’re thinking now. You’re thinking 'Oh my god, that’s treating other people with respect gone mad!'"
When I am writing in this font, I am writing in my moderator voice.
Spam-desu
User avatar
Frustration
Captain
Posts: 1607
Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:16 pm

Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi on Disney+

Post by Frustration »

Those are all incredibly weak plotholes. I agree that they're issues, and it's good that the remake dealt with them, but none of them are really key to the basic storyline. The biggest issue of all is why no one in the village seems to know the castle is there, even though it contains a prince who must have fallen under a curse relatively recently, and yet everyone can easily find the castle when they want to have a torch-and-pitchfork mob.

Fridge logic problems are only an issue if they distract viewers from the story while it's going on, instead of afterwards when they go to the fridge. DSW has problems that are obvious in the moment they come up.
"Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two equals four. If that is granted, all else follows." -- George Orwell, 1984
User avatar
McAvoy
Captain
Posts: 3906
Joined: Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:55 am
Location: East Windsor, NJ

Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi on Disney+

Post by McAvoy »

hammerofglass wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:25 pm
McAvoy wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:36 am I am not getting the outrage some have at this series.
The only thing I've seen where they pointed to a specific complaint rather than just that everything new is bad was "there's a black woman in it".
I think it's a combination of that, kid Leia being annoying and Obi Wan not kicking ass and being pathetic in the third episode against Vader.

I have yet to watch Doomcock's review of it but the thumbnails says that they are treating Obi Wan like they did to Luke in the Last Jedi. Maybe it's just click bait.
I got nothing to say here.
User avatar
CharlesPhipps
Captain
Posts: 4953
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:06 pm

Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi on Disney+

Post by CharlesPhipps »

McAvoy wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 3:29 am I think it's a combination of that, kid Leia being annoying and Obi Wan not kicking ass and being pathetic in the third episode against Vader.

I have yet to watch Doomcock's review of it but the thumbnails says that they are treating Obi Wan like they did to Luke in the Last Jedi. Maybe it's just click bait.
Certain Youtubers only hate stuff as part of their brand. There's a reason Red Letter Media isn't doing Strange New Worlds and that's because they know their audience won't side with them hating on it.
User avatar
clearspira
Overlord
Posts: 5676
Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:51 pm

Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi on Disney+

Post by clearspira »

CharlesPhipps wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 5:22 am
McAvoy wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 3:29 am I think it's a combination of that, kid Leia being annoying and Obi Wan not kicking ass and being pathetic in the third episode against Vader.

I have yet to watch Doomcock's review of it but the thumbnails says that they are treating Obi Wan like they did to Luke in the Last Jedi. Maybe it's just click bait.
Certain Youtubers only hate stuff as part of their brand. There's a reason Red Letter Media isn't doing Strange New Worlds and that's because they know their audience won't side with them hating on it.
Or maybe RLM actually likes Strange New Worlds? Le shock!
Post Reply