Star Trek: Strange new worlds

[Frustration]

What, they can't write new stories?

(That was intended to be rhetorical and sarcastic, but now that I think about it that would explain a lot.)

[CharlesPhipps]

So they took an unused Roddenberry script that was no doubt based on "Those Who Walk Away from Omelas", and somehow made it even more similar to the original source?
I'm starting to think that maybe there was a reason that script was never used. And why maybe no one should reuse any Roddenberry stories.

Speaking as a writer, I have no issue with the story being adapted but I feel they should have acknowledged the inspiration in the credits.

What, they can't write new stories?

(That was intended to be rhetorical and sarcastic, but now that I think about it that would explain a lot.)

Todd in the Shadows said that One Direction ripped off Baba O'Riley for their song "The Best Song Ever" and was torn in his opinion due to the sheer audacity of ripping off the Who as a bubblegum boy band versus the fact, obviously, that makes their song a 1000 times better.

[Madner Kami]

So they took an unused Roddenberry script that was no doubt based on "Those Who Walk Away from Omelas", and somehow made it even more similar to the original source?
I'm starting to think that maybe there was a reason that script was never used. And why maybe no one should reuse any Roddenberry stories.

Speaking as a writer, I have no issue with the story being adapted but I feel they should have acknowledged the inspiration in the credits.

How very Roddenberryish of them.

[CharlesPhipps]

I’m reminded of the controversy of THE LAST OF US ending that will come up here as there’s essentially two kinds of people who respond to the ending of that and I suspect will have the same reflection in the fandom here.

1:] “What a fascinating moral dilemma! The needs of the many versus the needs of the few. Is it justified or not?”
2:] “These child killing sickos should be nuked from orbit.”

To go with The Last of Us example, one of the things that the developers found out was the younger fandom were all about the belief Joel did something terrible and was selfish. While the older fandom generally reacted with the view Joel did nothing wrong except not telling Ellie about killing the Fireflies.

Here, it’s pretty clear that Captain Pike’s reaction is his ex-girlfriend is a serial child murderer. There’s no actual debate, he’s horrified and disgusted by her. Which I feel is an appropriate reaction but prevents any sort of Star Trek back and forth.

Weirdly, I also note this episode reminds me a lot of “When the Bough Breaks” where the people have forgotten how their technology works and are more or less okay with it since it still provides them what they need. It doesn’t take me being a scifi writer (and there’s several other here on these forums) to come up with reasons that the technology is either damaged, malfunctioning, or not designed for their species but they’ve gotten it to work “close enough” that they don’t care about its cost. After all, plenty of people in our present day primitive society ignore the needs of children suffering to benefit their own luxuries (child labor being just one example).

I also get why Pike’s girlfriend tried to show him the ceremony. She was hoping he’d accept it and stay with her. Obviously, she gravely misjudged how it would go over with him.

[clearspira]

I’m reminded of the controversy of THE LAST OF US ending that will come up here as there’s essentially two kinds of people who respond to the ending of that and I suspect will have the same reflection in the fandom here.

1:] “What a fascinating moral dilemma! The needs of the many versus the needs of the few. Is it justified or not?”
2:] “These child killing sickos should be nuked from orbit.”

To go with The Last of Us example, one of the things that the developers found out was the younger fandom were all about the belief Joel did something terrible and was selfish. While the older fandom generally reacted with the view Joel did nothing wrong except not telling Ellie about killing the Fireflies.

Here, it’s pretty clear that Captain Pike’s reaction is his ex-girlfriend is a serial child murderer. There’s no actual debate, he’s horrified and disgusted by her. Which I feel is an appropriate reaction but prevents any sort of Star Trek back and forth.

Weirdly, I also note this episode reminds me a lot of “When the Bough Breaks” where the people have forgotten how their technology works and are more or less okay with it since it still provides them what they need. It doesn’t take me being a scifi writer (and there’s several other here on these forums) to come up with reasons that the technology is either damaged, malfunctioning, or not designed for their species but they’ve gotten it to work “close enough” that they don’t care about its cost. After all, plenty of people in our present day primitive society ignore the needs of children suffering to benefit their own luxuries (child labor being just one example).

I also get why Pike’s girlfriend tried to show him the ceremony. She was hoping he’d accept it and stay with her. Obviously, she gravely misjudged how it would go over with him.

The writers then decided to go with the "Joel was evil" plot as canon and thus ensured that TLOU 3 will not be as successful as 2.

[CharlesPhipps]

The writers then decided to go with the "Joel was evil" plot as canon and thus ensured that TLOU 3 will not be as successful as 2.

I mean Joel was a former Raider and mass murderer who, himself, would have said he deserved to die.

Which is why Joel's death didn't bother me.

Joel: "Just tell me whatever you plan on saying and get over it."

A true boss.

But after that moment, there's no fucking way anyone wants anything but Abby's head. They blew their wad way too early. Make Joel the FINAL BOSS of her segment if you're going to go that direction and after an entire game or half game or Abby.

And even then, expect people to hate her.

[Mabus]

Episode 7:
I don't even know what to make of this episode. It just felt so rushed and pointless.
The villains are weak. Spider-Hela is very cartoonish, so painful to watch. The other is Captain Ginger Taserface, leading an army of ripoff GotG Ravagers in a ripoff Canterbury. Neither are interesting, one is hammy to the point of silliness and the other just vanishes after a few scenes. Oh and apparently Sybok will be the secret bad guy for the future? Who is somehow connected to Spider-Hela?

Where are Hemmer and Uhura? The chief engineer is not available even though Engineering was supposed to be important in the plot. This is the third episode he's missing.

Episodes 2 and 4, while not amazing, are how the series should be, the ship getting taken over for the Nth time by a lame villain is becoming boring and repetitive. The show needs more exploration and cool CGI battles, especially since the writers still can't write any good dialogue, so at least give us some good eye candy.

Rating: 3/10

[Thebestoftherest]

Spider-Hela sounds like something from Marvel comics.

[clearspira]

Without any other context, Spider-Hela reminds me of the Lost in Space movie.
''Time for my army of spiiidddddeeeerrrrsss''.

[McAvoy]

Spider-Hela sounds like something from Marvel comics.

Reminds me of that Skinemax movie parody of Spiderman.

Context, Cinemax after a certain time like around midnight would stop showing real movies and start showing soft core porn.