"Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows"

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To all the "Praise God" crowd coming out on Twitter in the wake of the US Supreme Court overturning Roe V Wade:

Safe abortions are supported under Judaism and Islam. A lot of Muslims believe that the fetus doesn't gain a soul until after around 120 days, so abortion is permissible around that time.

So, denying people an abortion goes against their religious rights, which is against the US's own constitution.
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BBally81 wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:57 pm So, denying people an abortion goes against their religious rights, which is against the US's own constitution.
Ah that's contingent on the conservatives that control the country to consider muslims and jews people, they do not.
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Draco Dracul wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:05 pm
BBally81 wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:57 pm So, denying people an abortion goes against their religious rights, which is against the US's own constitution.
Ah that's contingent on the conservatives that control the country to consider muslims and jews people, they do not.
Or to give a damn about the Constitution. They don't do that either.
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BBally81 wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:57 pmSo, denying people an abortion goes against their religious rights, which is against the US's own constitution.
Don't be ridiculous - abortion before that date is permitted by Islam, not mandatory.
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Frustration wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:06 pm
BBally81 wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:57 pmSo, denying people an abortion goes against their religious rights, which is against the US's own constitution.
Don't be ridiculous - abortion before that date is permitted by Islam, not mandatory.
I'm a Muslim, so I know it's permitted in around 120 days therefore if a Muslim living in America wants to perform an abortion and they are told no because of the ruling, how do you think they're going to react?
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Irrelevant. If abortion were mandated by Islam and the law denied it, you could make a case that would be denial of freedom of religion. But that is not the reality.
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Frustration wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:06 pm
BBally81 wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:57 pmSo, denying people an abortion goes against their religious rights, which is against the US's own constitution.
Don't be ridiculous - abortion before that date is permitted by Islam, not mandatory.
Denying them an abortion is still a violation of thier religous freedom because it is explicitly permitted by the religion.
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Put the ideology down and step away slowly.
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Draco Dracul wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:06 pm
Frustration wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:06 pm
BBally81 wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:57 pmSo, denying people an abortion goes against their religious rights, which is against the US's own constitution.
Don't be ridiculous - abortion before that date is permitted by Islam, not mandatory.
Denying them an abortion is still a violation of thier religous freedom because it is explicitly permitted by the religion.
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Most Christians and Christian denominations don't oppose abortion. It's pretty much just the Catholics.
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