Recordings within 8 feet of police illegal in Arizona under bill signed into law by Ducey

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Recordings within 8 feet of police illegal in Arizona under bill signed into law by Ducey

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And, yes, the cop being filmed from more than eight feet away can just walk closer...

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/po ... 816271001/
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Why would an honest cop object to being recorded by the public?

And more importantly, why do politicians wish to put more power into the authority side of the public/authority balance?
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Frustration wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:41 pmAnd more importantly, why do politicians wish to put more power into the authority side of the public/authority balance?
I dunno, why would someone who controls the authorities want the authorities to have more power? It's a secret to everybody.
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But police aren't politicians and politicians aren't police. So why do politicians perceive it to be in their interests to increase the legal privileges of the police in encounters with the public?
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I just listened to this on Lehto's Law.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaqYT1cmtqo
And the parts of interest are, you can record your own interaction. If in a vehicle, anyone in the vehicle can still record you. And in a building they can continue due to space constraints.
This blocks third parties from getting within eight feet of an active interaction. So basically don't insert yourself into the middle of the police and someone. Stand back and let people do their jobs. I know too many people that thinks having a camera let's them do what ever they please. Okay two, but at least one does it just to get reactions so they can sue.
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Nealithi wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:42 am I just listened to this on Lehto's Law.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaqYT1cmtqo
And the parts of interest are, you can record your own interaction. If in a vehicle, anyone in the vehicle can still record you. And in a building they can continue due to space constraints.
This blocks third parties from getting within eight feet of an active interaction. So basically don't insert yourself into the middle of the police and someone. Stand back and let people do their jobs. I know too many people that thinks having a camera let's them do what ever they please. Okay two, but at least one does it just to get reactions so they can sue.
This makes sense. Onlookers not getting the way and all that. Eight feet isn't that far really for the onlookers.

I would be more concerned about those recording between the suspect and the cop. Whether or not the suspect is guilty of something or not, there should be a recording just in case. And it would benefit the cop as well even though they would have a body cam too.
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Frustration wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:41 pm And more importantly, why do politicians wish to put more power into the authority side of the public/authority balance?
Because shit's fucked and there has been a decades long campaign to restrict or destroy all the tools of shit unfucking so they are preparing to beat the people into submission.
Frustration wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:23 am But police aren't politicians and politicians aren't police. So why do politicians perceive it to be in their interests to increase the legal privileges of the police in encounters with the public?
Because police exist to enforce the will of the state. Modern policing has two basic things its patterned after, militaries designed to suppress and control colonial populations and slave catchers.
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Save for the protection of the right to individual liberty and privacy, the government has a fundamental obligation typically to operate with a coat and under an umbrella of transparency. As an organization like any other organization, commercial or private, "the customer is always right" takes on a meaning of its own as far as it can relate to autonomous administrative effort by the government. Records are often publicly accessible just for instance.

Not to say that there aren't rules in place for the provision of potentially everybody asserting their fiscal authority over the centralized workers, but just the opposite; rules that stop people from interfering from mundane government operation are probably the most effective mechanisms that any government will use to create boundary, much more than any type of privileged autonomy.
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