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[CharlesPhipps]

OK, fair enough. But the idea of "activating" the X-gene is... interestingly canon breaking. It is one way to explain how mutants come about I guess.

I had the theory they were going to reveal the X-men have only existed about 5 years in sufficient numbers.

Mutants existed but it was the Thanos zap that triggered most of them.

[Thebestoftherest]

Make sense, because I don't know if anyone want teenager Xavier. PS marvel don't use the modern Xavier have him be the wise if misleading kind old man in the wheelchair.

[clearspira]

Make sense, because I don't know if anyone want teenager Xavier. PS marvel don't use the modern Xavier have him be the wise if misleading kind old man in the wheelchair.

I would argue that ''Wheels'' as Hugh Jackman's Wolverine called him is the only Xavier that popular culture recognises.

[Thebestoftherest]

While that is true, they been using the comics for blue prints on so many other things.

[McAvoy]

Look at it this way, Marvel/Disney couldn't touch on X-Men and mutants because of Fox.

So now they can and they are trying to prep the MCU for their introduction. Afterall, you just can't say well they were there the entire time. Then the natural argument would be why didn't they help against Thanos or any other huge issues from previous movies? Same arguments made with Eternals and Captain Marvel. Though each movie had their built in excuse.

[BBally81]

Apparently, Kamala Khan was originally planned to be a mutant in the comics, not an Inhuman but that was scrapped because of the Fox deal.

https://www.empireonline.com/tv/news/ms ... exclusive/

[clearspira]

Look at it this way, Marvel/Disney couldn't touch on X-Men and mutants because of Fox.

So now they can and they are trying to prep the MCU for their introduction. Afterall, you just can't say well they were there the entire time. Then the natural argument would be why didn't they help against Thanos or any other huge issues from previous movies? Same arguments made with Eternals and Captain Marvel. Though each movie had their built in excuse.

That depends on which era of the X-Men that you are reading. Silver and Bronze Age X-Men absolutely would have been fighting alongside the Avengers to combat a global threat. Dark Age X-Men however were frequently xenophobic racists who often sat back and happily let bad things happen. So much so that Marvel actually realised this at one point and had modern Beast bring back the original X-Men to demonstrate to Cyclops just what a dick he has become. The modern X-Men are kind of a cross between the two depending on the writer.

I will say though, I kind of understand why the X-Men became so extreme because the Marvel universe has never really made sense in that they discriminate against mutants but worship the likes of Captain America and the Fantastic 4. Apparantly getting your powers through genes wrong, getting it through cosmic radiation right(?) This is kind of why I feel that the X-Men work best when they aren't in the same universe as the Avengers and the MCU is going to have to work hard to combat this hypocrisy, especially if Professor Hulk is still walking around taking selfies.

But yeah, it must be pretty galling to save the world a hundred times for the most ungrateful ''get to the back of the bus'' populace imaginable.

[Thebestoftherest]

Your not wrong. The only thing I can think of is with cap and fantastic four their powers were in one case a science experiment that got government backing and won't happen again and FF were a freak accident that never could happen again. Meanwhile they never are sure what cause the mutant genes, and the range of powers and numbers are large enough to cause people to grow pause.

[Winter]

Your not wrong. The only thing I can think of is with cap and fantastic four their powers were in one case a science experiment that got government backing and won't happen again and FF were a freak accident that never could happen again. Meanwhile they never are sure what cause the mutant genes, and the range of powers and numbers are large enough to cause people to grow pause.

I actually love Stan Lee's apparent reasons for why mutants exist, because he and the other Marvel Writers wanted to be lazy. This was on I think the X-Men Evolution DVD Extras where Lee said that was the reason for why they came up with mutants, because he and the other writers were tired of coming up with how superheroes got their powers so it was just decided that mutants were born with their powers due to "Mutation/Evolution".

What I want to know is how Mutants will tie in with the MCU as super-powered people are looked on as heroes which include Hulk and Spider-Man along with Captain America, Captain Marvel and Black Panther. Now they could very well tie this into the Snap (I refuse to call it the Blip) and that the resulting energy of the Snap somehow caused the X-Gene to become a thing or it was always there but the snap resulted int more mutants showing up.

And the reason the haven't shown up as much is either their powers are just awakening or they've been trying to keep a low profile because of their possible tie to the snap. To tie to discrimination topic of the X-Men because it's such a major part of their lore we all know the idiotic phase "Gays Cause Hurricanes" which is stupid because we all know butterflies are the real culprits, but anyways if people without powers are blamed for things beyond our control then what will happen if mutants are suspected to be connected to the worst catastrophe within the MCU. An event that left the whole universe scared for 5 years and will likely never be able to fully recover from.

Mutants would be a scapegoat for many so if that's the case A) It would be a nice way to tie into the Snap which is good world building and B) it avoids the issue of raising the question of why mutants are only now showing up.

[Thebestoftherest]

True, and if they declare Wanda a mutant and what happened in Wanda vision.