Useless isuue, you have an issue you should explain it instead of just slapping a label on someone.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote:...what??Agent Vinod wrote:I do not believe in trolls or troilling...Dînadan wrote:If you trawl through his comments in other threads I’m fairly sure you’ll find he tends to pick whatever side is opposite the majority; don’t recall which thread it was in, but I’m fairly sure I’ve seen him swap sides mid thread to go against the majority. No idea if he’s doing it to play devil’s advocate, or if he’s trying to troll people.Madner Kami wrote: That is not at all, what he has written. Are you willfully ignoring what he writes just to create an attackable strawman or are you really that fixed on your course?
WHat?
...to be clear, are you saying that you don't believe online trolls even EXIST, or is there some more subtle statement the meaning of which eludes me?
How is Hillary getting the debate questions ahead of time differrent than supposed Russia collusion?
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English! Speak English mein comrade!
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Re: How is Hillary getting the debate questions ahead of time differrent than supposed Russia collusion?
Hold on, let me fix that:Fuzzy Necromancer wrote:English! Speak English mein comrade!
youtu.be/m_mDTLphIVY
There we go. Much better.
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Re: How is Hillary getting the debate questions ahead of time differrent than supposed Russia collusion?
One is at most a minor cheat in an internal matter of the democratic party (the questions in question were ones that anyone with two brain cells knew would be asked, literal she was told their would be a question about the Flint crisis in a debate taking place in Flint), the other is subversion of the election process by a hostile foreign power.Agent Vinod wrote:If she was eletcted by a small margin could you not try to invalidate her election just like it was done with Trump?
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Russia is a hostile power?Draco Dracul wrote:One is at most a minor cheat in an internal matter of the democratic party (the questions in question were ones that anyone with two brain cells knew would be asked, literal she was told their would be a question about the Flint crisis in a debate taking place in Flint), the other is subversion of the election process by a hostile foreign power.Agent Vinod wrote:If she was eletcted by a small margin could you not try to invalidate her election just like it was done with Trump?
how does that manifest itself?
Re: How is Hillary getting the debate questions ahead of time differrent than supposed Russia collusion?
Let's see, Hilary used the tricks of the trade to give herself a slight (unsavoury) advantage. Donnie Drumpfuck committed treason to give himself an unnecessary* advantage.Agent Vinod wrote:If she was eletcted by a small margin could you not try to invalidate her election just like it was done with Trump?
*The ten million US citizens denied their votes before the election by Republitraitor state governments is probably what allowed Drumpfuck be appointed.
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Re: How is Hillary getting the debate questions ahead of time differrent than supposed Russia collusion?
You mean the uranium deal which was signed off by nine department Secretaries, was Obama's to decide on and meant that exactly 0g of uranium left US shores?PlasmaHam wrote:the Russian uranium deal.
Yeah that's a big scandal all right, up there with the one about who ate the last of the jaffa cakes that I was saving for myself.
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I was not aware of the fact that getting the debate questions ahead of time was widely accepted trick opposed to someone new and unusual. Were voting machines hacked by Russians? Why is getting some oppo research and hacking if it happened a betrayal of the Republic? In what way will the Republic be harmed by it?Mindworm wrote:Let's see, Hilary used the tricks of the trade to give herself a slight (unsavoury) advantage. Donnie Drumpfuck committed treason to give himself an unnecessary* advantage.Agent Vinod wrote:If she was eletcted by a small margin could you not try to invalidate her election just like it was done with Trump?
*The ten million US citizens denied their votes before the election by Republitraitor state governments is probably what allowed Drumpfuck be appointed.
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Re: How is Hillary getting the debate questions ahead of time differrent than supposed Russia collusion?
Do you not know that consorting with foreign espionage companies is illegal on its face?Agent Vinod wrote:I was not aware of the fact that getting the debate questions ahead of time was widely accepted trick opposed to someone new and unusual. Were voting machines hacked by Russians? Why is getting some oppo research and hacking if it happened a betrayal of the Republic? In what way will the Republic be harmed by it?
Do you not know that doing so to gain political power and grant them favors in exchange for their help is also illegal?
That it is super illegal?
The harm is the act itself. You are weakening the legitimacy of the political institution because it is based on public trust and popular mandate. By creating a situation in which the public cannot trust its leaders and representatives to act in the best interest of the public it has damaged the social order.
I don't know what you are not getting about this. All of the things you are putting forward are massive false equivalences.
Even if you like Trump's policies or those of the Republican party, even if you hate Clinton and the Democratic policy, you should be Pissed about This. Because literally everything that is signed into law, every position filled is going to have footnote on it in the history books. It will all carry a mark of being illegitimate. It will all be tainted.
But for a moment, even though I already linked you my thoughts on the Clinton thing. Let's go ahead and do that too. Clinton cheated in a party she is in against someone who up till then had not been in the party. To win an internal political struggle. It was all in house, and it will still cause an uprising if even a small percentage of those voters that showed up for Bernie stick to their guns, because they have the MOST vested interest in future elections because they are younger. The repercussions for those actions will be happening in the Party.
In the Party.
You know. The one that didn't commit treason.
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Re: How is Hillary getting the debate questions ahead of time differrent than supposed Russia collusion?
Google it you lazy hand-and-a-half!Agent Vinod wrote:Russia is a hostile power?Draco Dracul wrote:One is at most a minor cheat in an internal matter of the democratic party (the questions in question were ones that anyone with two brain cells knew would be asked, literal she was told their would be a question about the Flint crisis in a debate taking place in Flint), the other is subversion of the election process by a hostile foreign power.Agent Vinod wrote:If she was eletcted by a small margin could you not try to invalidate her election just like it was done with Trump?
how does that manifest itself?
If you can't see how KGB-agent-run-Russia is a hostile power, either it's because you're too lazy to find the information or willfully blind to it. Why should I throw out a half-dozen well-researched sources to have you disregard them and say "Hillary did a bad thing too!"?
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