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Frustration wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:02 pm
Again, retroactive claims are extremely poor evidence. Given that no characters in any of the three movies display a different sex - or even a different appearance - between the Matrix and the real world, the idea that the movies are meant to be an exploration of having a conflict between one's self-perception and the physical body isn't supported. The Matrix is a general metaphor for alienation and a sense of unreality; it was made generic enough to represent anything that would result in those feelings, almost certainly by design. It's generally applicable, not specifically allegorical.
Yes and the two forms of alienation and unreality it is focused on are those caused by gender dysphoria and those caused by neoliberalism (and capitalism in general). The first film is primarily focused on the first and the sequels on the second.
You're argument is kind of contradictory because you're saying that it can't be an allegory because it's not literally happening. Like duh it's not literally being shown, that's what makes it an allegory. It's like saying Aslan being executed on the stone table can't be an allegory for the Crucifixion of christ because Aslan isn't literally being crucified by the Romans in place of Jesus Barabus.
Draco Dracul wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:04 pm The first film is primarily focused on the first
...except, it's not. There isn't anything in the final film that even brings the topic up... and considerable lore that means the protagonist can't suffer from gender dysphoria.
"Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two equals four. If that is granted, all else follows." -- George Orwell, 1984
Draco Dracul wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:04 pm The first film is primarily focused on the first
...except, it's not. There isn't anything in the final film that even brings the topic up... and considerable lore that means the protagonist can't suffer from gender dysphoria.
I have a very good understanding of what allegory is. It's a very high standard to meet. The first film doesn't meet that standard - it doesn't even try to. Because it's not about merely one thing.
Compare Animal Farm, which IS a modern allegory, and is a reskinned telling of the corruption of the Communist movement by the Soviet Union.
"Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two equals four. If that is granted, all else follows." -- George Orwell, 1984
To return to the OT: people in the public perception need to watch out, because there will always be lunatics whose motivations make no sense but whose actions are very real.
"Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two equals four. If that is granted, all else follows." -- George Orwell, 1984
Frustration wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:11 am
I've forgotten, it's been so long.
To return to the OT: people in the public perception need to watch out, because there will always be lunatics whose motivations make no sense but whose actions are very real.
I mean this isn't really a case of that. They guys motivations is very clear, his mom was robbed blind by the Unification Church (a Christian cult started by Sun Myung Moon) so he murdered a former prime minister with deep finical ties to said church. The leadership of the church is located in Korea, so he went after someone high profile that lived in Japan in an attempt to make those connections know. That's also why he surrendered himself and sent a letter explaining his motivations to the press as there wouldn't be a point if his motivations went unknown.
