Yeah, it's a set of arbitrary standards meant to make sure that meaningful change is harder while also making things more difficult for minorities.clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:54 am Have you seen the Finnish prime minister this week, dancing drunk, possibly on drugs, her mates flashing their tits on camera and then bursting out into tears during an apology like a little girl? If this is what the future looks like then kill me now.
Those Cold War relics know what professionalism looks like at least.
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I think he is mistaking professionalism for the fact that in the cold war, every single person alive didn't carry a camera so it was harder to find people doing stupid things.Draco Dracul wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 1:18 pmYeah, it's a set of arbitrary standards meant to make sure that meaningful change is harder while also making things more difficult for minorities.clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:54 am Have you seen the Finnish prime minister this week, dancing drunk, possibly on drugs, her mates flashing their tits on camera and then bursting out into tears during an apology like a little girl? If this is what the future looks like then kill me now.
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#RememberJumboThebestoftherest wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:34 pmI think he is mistaking professionalism for the fact that in the cold war, every single person alive didn't carry a camera so it was harder to find people doing stupid things.Draco Dracul wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 1:18 pmYeah, it's a set of arbitrary standards meant to make sure that meaningful change is harder while also making things more difficult for minorities.clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:54 am Have you seen the Finnish prime minister this week, dancing drunk, possibly on drugs, her mates flashing their tits on camera and then bursting out into tears during an apology like a little girl? If this is what the future looks like then kill me now.
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What a politician does in their free time is their own business, as long as they are not hurting anyone or directly passing the bill on to their constituents.clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:54 amHave you seen the Finnish prime minister this week, dancing drunk, possibly on drugs, her mates flashing their tits on camera and then bursting out into tears during an apology like a little girl? If this is what the future looks like then kill me now.ProfessorDetective wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:21 amAgreed. If anything, circumstances may be on a slight upswing. If we can finally get the Cold War relics unlashed from the damn wheel, we MIGHT be able to right the ship. I hope...Madner Kami wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:12 pm Millenials and Gen Z has it too easy? Really? Is that your final verdict? The generations which haven't seen a pay increase in literal decades despite increasing productivity? The generations which famously live with their parents until they are fourty, because they can't aford even an apartement near their working space? The first generations which will have to live through the whole planet's climate-change, thanks to the Boomers making it impossible to progress away from traditional "values" and points of views and who are still dominating politics both due to the shere amount of votes they get in relation to the ever shrinking follow-up generations and because they have more politicians their age than any other generation? Not to even talk about what eastern Millenials and Gen Z went through when the Soviet Bloc collapsed... For many of us Millenials and Gen Zs, this is literally the first time in their life where they, as a work-force, are in a position of power due to a wide spread of lack of available hands in all industries. Some of us had to wait 40 years for that...
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Rumour is that it was the Russians who hacked her cloud and released this footage. Why? Because she has angered Putin by applying for NATO membership. In other words, she has allowed a foreign enemy power to ridicule her office.ProfessorDetective wrote: ↑Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:23 amWhat a politician does in their free time is their own business, as long as they are not hurting anyone or directly passing the bill on to their constituents.clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:54 amHave you seen the Finnish prime minister this week, dancing drunk, possibly on drugs, her mates flashing their tits on camera and then bursting out into tears during an apology like a little girl? If this is what the future looks like then kill me now.ProfessorDetective wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:21 amAgreed. If anything, circumstances may be on a slight upswing. If we can finally get the Cold War relics unlashed from the damn wheel, we MIGHT be able to right the ship. I hope...Madner Kami wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:12 pm Millenials and Gen Z has it too easy? Really? Is that your final verdict? The generations which haven't seen a pay increase in literal decades despite increasing productivity? The generations which famously live with their parents until they are fourty, because they can't aford even an apartement near their working space? The first generations which will have to live through the whole planet's climate-change, thanks to the Boomers making it impossible to progress away from traditional "values" and points of views and who are still dominating politics both due to the shere amount of votes they get in relation to the ever shrinking follow-up generations and because they have more politicians their age than any other generation? Not to even talk about what eastern Millenials and Gen Z went through when the Soviet Bloc collapsed... For many of us Millenials and Gen Zs, this is literally the first time in their life where they, as a work-force, are in a position of power due to a wide spread of lack of available hands in all industries. Some of us had to wait 40 years for that...
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I would have serious doubts about voting for her after this.
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Putin ridicules EVERYONE'S office, or everyone who isn't an ally anyway. If it wasn't this it would have been something else. Saying she "allowed" Putin to ridicule her office isn't fair at all. Finland isn't responsible for Putin being a dick.clearspira wrote: ↑Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:51 amRumour is that it was the Russians who hacked her cloud and released this footage. Why? Because she has angered Putin by applying for NATO membership. In other words, she has allowed a foreign enemy power to ridicule her office.ProfessorDetective wrote: ↑Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:23 amWhat a politician does in their free time is their own business, as long as they are not hurting anyone or directly passing the bill on to their constituents.clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:54 amHave you seen the Finnish prime minister this week, dancing drunk, possibly on drugs, her mates flashing their tits on camera and then bursting out into tears during an apology like a little girl? If this is what the future looks like then kill me now.ProfessorDetective wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:21 amAgreed. If anything, circumstances may be on a slight upswing. If we can finally get the Cold War relics unlashed from the damn wheel, we MIGHT be able to right the ship. I hope...Madner Kami wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:12 pm Millenials and Gen Z has it too easy? Really? Is that your final verdict? The generations which haven't seen a pay increase in literal decades despite increasing productivity? The generations which famously live with their parents until they are fourty, because they can't aford even an apartement near their working space? The first generations which will have to live through the whole planet's climate-change, thanks to the Boomers making it impossible to progress away from traditional "values" and points of views and who are still dominating politics both due to the shere amount of votes they get in relation to the ever shrinking follow-up generations and because they have more politicians their age than any other generation? Not to even talk about what eastern Millenials and Gen Z went through when the Soviet Bloc collapsed... For many of us Millenials and Gen Zs, this is literally the first time in their life where they, as a work-force, are in a position of power due to a wide spread of lack of available hands in all industries. Some of us had to wait 40 years for that...
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I would have serious doubts about voting for her after this.
Whether a politician does something mildly embarrassing should almost never be a factor in voting for them, especially if the only person who makes a big deal out of it is a mortal enemy of the nation. If anything, if it was shown that the Russians were the ones who exposed her, she might be able to count on MORE public support rather than less, since the Finnish would unite against Putin.
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Russian state-hackers are kind of a myth. There're a number of russian hacker groups, a lot of which are "patrioticly motivated" (read: nationalist fucktards) and generally don't turn their skills against Russia itself, only wreaking havoc outside Russia and, consequentially, against percieved external enemies. The russian state naturally doesn't do anything about them, of course, but that's where the state's involvement ends.
As for not voting for that finnish politician again. Seriously? She's having some fun at a wild party with friends of hers in her spare-time. She didn't dislocate governmental funds, didn't break or bend any rules, didn't host a child-sex-trafficking ring either, unlike certain politicians beyond the great pond or even beyond the small pond on that little wierd isolationist island near Europe (and don't dare pretend that your "cold war elder statesmen" are free of blemishes, you know exactly what I mean... (using a proxy to circumvent the paywall of the Independent.co.uk newspage, so don't worry about clicking that outlandish link)). So what exactly is your point of discontent, Clearspira? I thought you are much more intelligent than that.
As for not voting for that finnish politician again. Seriously? She's having some fun at a wild party with friends of hers in her spare-time. She didn't dislocate governmental funds, didn't break or bend any rules, didn't host a child-sex-trafficking ring either, unlike certain politicians beyond the great pond or even beyond the small pond on that little wierd isolationist island near Europe (and don't dare pretend that your "cold war elder statesmen" are free of blemishes, you know exactly what I mean... (using a proxy to circumvent the paywall of the Independent.co.uk newspage, so don't worry about clicking that outlandish link)). So what exactly is your point of discontent, Clearspira? I thought you are much more intelligent than that.
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"Woman dances at party" is the lamest most pathetic attempt to manufacture a scandal since "man puts mustard on burger". The only thing she did wrong was dignify it with a response.
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It is. AOC had something similar happen to her years ago.hammerofglass wrote: ↑Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:39 am "Woman dances at party" is the lamest most pathetic attempt to manufacture a scandal since "man puts mustard on burger". The only thing she did wrong was dignify it with a response.
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